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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">That is a great list
          of things Elsa, and I agree that is a very worrisome thought
          about the PDPs....sure they are not working, but ignoring
          dissidents is not the answer. Overlaps in constituencies in
          particular, given the love of ALAC, is a problem.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers SP</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-01-28 13:39, Elsa S wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">Hi Steph,</font></div>
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            <div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">During the
                council meeting, we also met with the Board and Cherine
                mentioned board priorities which included evolving the
                mutlistakeholder model based on the exercise they had
                done with the community in previous meetings (if you
                remember our NCSG session, it was very poorly attended
                and did not really touch <span class="gmail_default"
                  style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">upon
                </span>the points we should have touched upon if i
                remember correctly). When I asked for elaboration he
                mentioned<span class="gmail_default"
                  style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"> (as
                  far as I remember and as far as my notes go - please
                  other councilors correct me if I'm wrong)</span> <span
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                  style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(1)
                </span>the need to <span class="gmail_default"
                  style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">revisit
                  the process by which a PDP develops, (2) Minorities
                  and how much weight they should have, (3) the culture
                  of accountability and (4) overlaps in Cs. I'm
                  extremely curious as to how those discussions
                  developed because the four of them could very much
                  affect our work and structure going forward.</span></font></div>
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            <div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">I’d also like
                NCSG, NCUC and NPOC to pioneer the anti-harassment
                efforts which the board have been discussing. Apparently
                there’s a new board working group for anti-harassment
                which they annouce<span class="gmail_default" style="">d</span>
                today <a
                  href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-01-28-en"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-01-28-en</a><span
                  class="gmail_default" style=""></span>. So if we could
                ask them where they are at<span class="gmail_default"
                  style=""> then (in Kobe)</span>, and what NCSG could
                do to help, it would be great. Bruna and I (Kathy also
                helped!) are already in close touch with Sarah Deutsch
                and have been trying to push for more community
                engagement, which the board has been receptive to. They
                recently asked us if any other individuals would be
                willing to join. Any ideas from the team would be
                welcome!</font></div>
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            <div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">Maybe we could
                also ask about some financial issues? Ayden sent an
                excellent detailed email <span class="gmail_default"
                  style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">concerning
                  the public comment review of FY20 </span>with some
                points that could be detrimental to NCSG. Including
                crop, intersessional, fellowship related issues.</font></div>
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            <div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif"><span
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                  style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Finally,
                </span>+1 to Farzi’s comment<span class="gmail_default"
                  style="">s and we could give a very concrete example
                  on IGO-INGO if it's not too confrontational to do so.</span></font></div>
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                style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Best,</div>
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                style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Elsa</div>
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                style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">--</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 12:44 PM Stephanie
              Perrin <<a
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                <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Fabulous
                      Kathy, thanks for this....i will sneak that into
                      the call with goran.  Perhaps we could ask for a
                      visit/briefing in our NCSG meeting, which we need
                      to develop an agenda for very soon.  3 hours, I
                      think a half hour chat with whoever is working on
                      this is in order....I would note that it appears
                      twice in the 5 year plan, rather worrisome.</font></font></p>
                <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers
                      Steph</font></font><br>
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                  2019-01-28 12:26, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
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                  <p>Hi Stephanie,</p>
                  <p>What is the Board doing in terms of defining the
                    public interest?  Personally, I am not sure we need
                    to define this term (or can), but it is my
                    understanding that Board work is being done in this
                    area, and NCSG should certainly be involved! 
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                  <p>Questions on public interest include: what is the
                    Board doing, who is leading the effort (e.g., is
                    there a committee), and how can we participate in
                    the structuring and discussion of this important
                    issue?</p>
                  <p>Best, Kathy</p>
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                    1/28/2019 12:13 PM, Stephanie Perrin wrote:<br>
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                    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Do we
                          care who we meet with in Kobe from the Board? 
                          what is our agenda?</font></font></p>
                    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I seek
                          your guidance....have to respond soon to nail
                          down participation.  Further, as I said on the
                          last PC call, I have a call with Goran on the
                          31st, if there is anything you want me to
                          bring up let me know.</font></font></p>
                    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers
                          Steph</font></font><br>
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