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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">That is a great list
of things Elsa, and I agree that is a very worrisome thought
about the PDPs....sure they are not working, but ignoring
dissidents is not the answer. Overlaps in constituencies in
particular, given the love of ALAC, is a problem.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers SP</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2019-01-28 13:39, Elsa S wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">Hi Steph,</font></div>
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<div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">During the
council meeting, we also met with the Board and Cherine
mentioned board priorities which included evolving the
mutlistakeholder model based on the exercise they had
done with the community in previous meetings (if you
remember our NCSG session, it was very poorly attended
and did not really touch <span class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">upon
</span>the points we should have touched upon if i
remember correctly). When I asked for elaboration he
mentioned<span class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small"> (as
far as I remember and as far as my notes go - please
other councilors correct me if I'm wrong)</span> <span
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">(1)
</span>the need to <span class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">revisit
the process by which a PDP develops, (2) Minorities
and how much weight they should have, (3) the culture
of accountability and (4) overlaps in Cs. I'm
extremely curious as to how those discussions
developed because the four of them could very much
affect our work and structure going forward.</span></font></div>
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<div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">I’d also like
NCSG, NCUC and NPOC to pioneer the anti-harassment
efforts which the board have been discussing. Apparently
there’s a new board working group for anti-harassment
which they annouce<span class="gmail_default" style="">d</span>
today <a
href="https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-01-28-en"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.icann.org/news/announcement-2019-01-28-en</a><span
class="gmail_default" style=""></span>. So if we could
ask them where they are at<span class="gmail_default"
style=""> then (in Kobe)</span>, and what NCSG could
do to help, it would be great. Bruna and I (Kathy also
helped!) are already in close touch with Sarah Deutsch
and have been trying to push for more community
engagement, which the board has been receptive to. They
recently asked us if any other individuals would be
willing to join. Any ideas from the team would be
welcome!</font></div>
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<div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif">Maybe we could
also ask about some financial issues? Ayden sent an
excellent detailed email <span class="gmail_default"
style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">concerning
the public comment review of FY20 </span>with some
points that could be detrimental to NCSG. Including
crop, intersessional, fellowship related issues.</font></div>
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<div dir="auto"><font face="georgia, serif"><span
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style="font-family:georgia,serif;font-size:small">Finally,
</span>+1 to Farzi’s comment<span class="gmail_default"
style="">s and we could give a very concrete example
on IGO-INGO if it's not too confrontational to do so.</span></font></div>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Fabulous
Kathy, thanks for this....i will sneak that into
the call with goran. Perhaps we could ask for a
visit/briefing in our NCSG meeting, which we need
to develop an agenda for very soon. 3 hours, I
think a half hour chat with whoever is working on
this is in order....I would note that it appears
twice in the 5 year plan, rather worrisome.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers
Steph</font></font><br>
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2019-01-28 12:26, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
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<p>Hi Stephanie,</p>
<p>What is the Board doing in terms of defining the
public interest? Personally, I am not sure we need
to define this term (or can), but it is my
understanding that Board work is being done in this
area, and NCSG should certainly be involved!
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<p>Questions on public interest include: what is the
Board doing, who is leading the effort (e.g., is
there a committee), and how can we participate in
the structuring and discussion of this important
issue?</p>
<p>Best, Kathy</p>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Do we
care who we meet with in Kobe from the Board?
what is our agenda?</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I seek
your guidance....have to respond soon to nail
down participation. Further, as I said on the
last PC call, I have a call with Goran on the
31st, if there is anything you want me to
bring up let me know.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers
Steph</font></font><br>
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