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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks Thato, good
          ideas!  I will check out the wikispace.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers STephanie</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-11-14 00:50, Thato Mfikwe
      wrote:<br>
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        <div>Hi Stephanie and all,</div>
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        <div>Apologies for the delayed response, just provide some
          comments regarding FY20 ABRs:</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>1. ABR have historically been used for travel to meetings,
          and during<b> FY18</b> there was a shift towards capacity
          building, outreach and communication support, 14 requests were
          declined in FY18.</div>
        <div>In <b>FY19</b> the approved ABR we currently running on is
          centered around travel, communication and capacity building,6
          requests were declined. <br>
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        <div>All this changes were necessitated by budget cuts but it
          seems like in FY20 the ABR will some how improve according to
          the ICANN finance during ICANN 63 during their FY20 planning
          meeting, so based on positive community responses from the
          capacity building approach, I would recommend that we still
          maintain capacity building, improving on communication while
          trying to support active and committee members engage more in
          PDPs and ICANN meetings. We need to find other ways of
          supporting members to represent and participate.<br>
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        <div><br>
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        <div>2. Secondly, we need to understand what the priorities and
          current projects that are running and how they can be
          supported through this ABR process from constituencies,
          committees, working groups and the Stakeholder Group itself.</div>
        <div><br>
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        <div>3. It would be good to get proposals from the community
          before  the official submission<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>4. I hope starting with ICANN 64, the Finance Committee
          will be able to hold sessions during ICANN meetings with the
          community, not knowing what impact this might have on the
          current ABR and future ABR submissions..<br>
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        <div><br>
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        <div>5. We are happy to help with this process<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>5. Please checkout the <a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Finance+Committee#Information--640009899"
            moz-do-not-send="true">FC Wiki space</a> for 2018 and 2019
          ABR analysis, hope this helps, thanks.</div>
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        <div>Thato Mfikwe.<br>
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        <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 13, 2018 at 3:01 AM Stephanie Perrin
          <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
            moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Right, our
                  thinking is aligned here! Copying the finance
                  committee so that they can chime in.</font></font><br>
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            <div class="m_2707329500348379749moz-cite-prefix">On
              2018-11-12 19:56, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Hi Stephanie,
                <div><br>
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                <div>to be clear :) I am not asking you as chair to do
                  the whole work but instead that NCSG FC  to coordinate
                  such effort and takes the lead here. </div>
                <div>I  also suggested that ABRs proposals should come
                  from NCSG members and committees with enough details
                  as an input and then they can be discussed if they
                  should be submitted or not depending if they are
                  aligned with NCSG goals. NCSG PC may help in term of
                  input or proposals (while I don't have a specific idea
                  here)</div>
                <div><br>
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                <div>Best,</div>
                <div><br>
                </div>
                <div>Rafik</div>
                <div><br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Le mar. 13 nov. 2018 à 09:52,
                      Stephanie Perrin <<a
                        href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
                      a écrit :<br>
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                        <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Thanks
                              Rafik!  I am certainly happy to coordinate
                              and even draft the ABRs, but I think from
                              a policy perspective it is worth having a
                              think about them  We certainly have enough
                              time to consider what we might want to ask
                              for.</font></font></p>
                        <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers
                              Stephanie</font></font><br>
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                          class="m_2707329500348379749m_3629898650107269982moz-cite-prefix">On
                          2018-11-12 16:37, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Hi Stephanie,
                              <div><br>
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                              <div>usually, it was the chair doing the
                                coordination work and getting the
                                requests done. There were attempts to
                                get feedback and suggestion from members
                                but the bulk of the work to populate the
                                forms etc was still done by the chair. </div>
                              <div>Now, we have an active Finance
                                Committee and it should play such role
                                for coordination, collecting suggestions
                                and ideas from members and committees
                                with NCSG chair lead. </div>
                              <div>I think the approved ABRs for this
                                year were already listed in NCSG wiki
                                space
                                <a
                                  href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Approved+ABRs"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Approved+ABRs</a>. I
                                think the evaluation will happen de
                                facto when it will be decided to submit
                                again the same request or not. <br>
                                <br>
                                Best,</div>
                              <div><br>
                              </div>
                              <div>Rafik</div>
                              <div><br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr">Le mar. 13 nov. 2018
                                    à 01:44, Stephanie Perrin <<a
                                      href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                                      target="_blank"
                                      moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
                                    a écrit :<br>
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                                      <p><font size="+1"><font
                                            face="Lucida&#xA; Grande">Hi
                                            folks, any suggestions as to
                                          </font>how best to coordinate
                                          this year's effort including
                                          evaluations of successes and
                                          failures from past efforts
                                          would be welcome.</font> <font
                                          size="+1"> I recommend we make
                                          it an item on the next Policy
                                          committee meeting.</font><br>
                                      </p>
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                                              <td>[council] FY20
                                                Supporting Organization
                                                & Advisory Committee
                                                (SO/AC) ABR Kickoff</td>
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                                              <td>Mon, 12 Nov 2018
                                                09:07:18 +0000</td>
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                                              <td>Nathalie Peregrine <a
class="m_2707329500348379749m_3629898650107269982gmail-m_2798950161680834020moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org" target="_blank"
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<nathalie.peregrine@icann.org></a></td>
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                                              <td><a
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href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank"
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<council@gnso.icann.org></a></td>
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                                              <td><a
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href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>
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                                            ICANN Community Member,</p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal">ICANN’s
                                            Planning Team would like to
                                            notify you that the FY20
                                            Supporting Organization and
                                            Advisory Committee (SO/AC)
                                            Additional Budget Request
                                            process has begun. This
                                            additional budget approval
                                            process is part of the
                                            overall ICANN annual
                                            budgeting process that is
                                            for the review of specific
                                            requests from the community
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                                            included in the budget but
                                            serve to further the key
                                            objectives of the requesting
                                            community group. Your active
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                                            to procedural guidelines is
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                                            concerning the FY20 SO/AC
                                            additional request process,
                                            timeline, and additional
                                            budget request template can
                                            be found on the
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                                            forward to your continued
                                            engagement on the SO/AC
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                                            Process for FY20.</p>
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