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<p>Hi Bruna, Elsa, All,</p>
<p>The Subpro WG deadline is rapidly approaching (as you know!) I've
added a few more points to the draft comments (how could SubPro WG
ask so many open-ended questions?) We have much agreement in our
comments, and they are long and very substantial. There also
appear to be a few points of differences which would merit some
discussion. The document also needs a good edit from our great
editors. <br>
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<p>Better late than never, shall we meet (or did the meeting already
take place)?</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/26/2018 10:14 AM, Bruna Martins
dos Santos wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi all,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Any chance we could meet this coming
week to fix the document? I’ll touch base with Robin
and maybe Kathy to see if they could join us to answer
some of our questions on the doc. In the meantime,
I’ll be reviewing the doc and seeing if we could add
any further points.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Let me know if interested! I can set up
a google doc.</div>
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<div>Thanks Farzaneh, that is good for us.
<div>I touched base few days ago with Elsa and
Bruna regarding the status of our draft and we
are currently progressing. I think Kathy is
also helping for the review and Robin will be
consulted too.</div>
<div>as reminder we organized few weeks ago a NCSG
webinar (<a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Webinars"
target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/NCSG+Webinars</a>)
on the report presented by Robin where she
highlighted the most important and relevant
topics for us, I advice everyone to listen to
it. while the report is 300 pages (there are
appendices etc), it can be easier to listen to
the webinar and check the spreadsheet made by
the WG with all the recommendations and
questions organized by topic.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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<div>Rafik<br>
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<div>Le ven. 24 août 2018 à 01:31, farzaneh
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got some time for this huge document to
comment on. A big Phew.</div>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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public comment period</a> for
the New gTLD Subsequent
Procedures PDP WG Initial Report
has been extended. Public
comments will now be accepted
through
<b>26 September 2018</b>. Can
you kindly assist in sharing
this information with the
relevant members of your group?</span></p>
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<b>Subject: </b>New gTLD
Subsequent Procedures PDP WG
Initial Report - Public
Comment</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">We write to
you as the Co-Chairs of the
GNSO’s New gTLD Subsequent
Procedures Working Group (WG),
which is tasked with calling
upon the community’s collective
experiences from the 2012 New
gTLD Program round to consider
potential changes that may be
needed to the existing 2007
Introduction of New Generic
Top-Level Domains policy
recommendations and
implementation. We are pleased
to share that the Working Group
has reached an important
milestone by publishing its <a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_public-2Dcomments_gtld-2Dsubsequent-2Dprocedures-2Dinitial-2D2018-2D07-2D03-2Den&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=4gYyCwhtEI98RlWT6m_3FasU_W94CPJVbYvXvdaDxws&s=TwT7TfmDQ6Na2XFI7TKEFTn4pi5z-7JSXypjqAP6rRE&e="
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Initial Report for Public
Comment [icann.org]</a>. We
would like to strongly encourage
you to review this report and
provide feedback through public
comment on the draft preliminary
recommendations, options, and
questions for community
feedback. Your input is
essential to the success of this
PDP.</span></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">1. <span
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</span>Background on the New
gTLD Subsequent Procedures PDP
WG</span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">The GNSO’s
New gTLD Subsequent Procedures
Working Group (WG), which was
chartered by the GNSO Council to
conduct a Policy Development
Process (PDP), is seeking to
determine what, if any, changes
may need to be made to the
existing</span><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_issues_new-2Dgtlds_pdp-2Ddec05-2Dfr-2Dparta-2D08aug07.htm&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=4gYyCwhtEI98RlWT6m_3FasU_W94CPJVbYvXvdaDxws&s=fAYAOAlC7DqbvB0WyYMiIOXAkUC6kzqPgR62nsJhHCQ&e="
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</span><i><span
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">Introduction
of New Generic Top-Level
Domains</span></i>
[gnso.icann.org]</a><i><span
style="color:black">
</span></i><span
style="color:black">policy
recommendations from 8 August
2007 as well as the final</span><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__newgtlds.icann.org_en_applicants_agb&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=4gYyCwhtEI98RlWT6m_3FasU_W94CPJVbYvXvdaDxws&s=iK3CVAc8mCe_CJRGZTBv2B_bDcoekw7F1Tg2uNLpbsI&e="
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</span><span
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)">Applicant
Guidebook</span>
[newgtlds.icann.org]</a><span
style="color:black"> dated June
2012. As the original policy
recommendations as adopted by
the GNSO Council and ICANN Board
have “been designed to produce
systemized and ongoing
mechanisms for applicants to
propose new top-level domains,”
those policy recommendations
remain in place for subsequent
rounds of the New gTLD Program
unless the GNSO Council would
decide to modify those policy
recommendations via a policy
development process. The PDP WG
created 5 Work Tracks that are
responsible for considering the
subjects within its charter. The
PDP WG sought community input
through two community comment
periods. The Working Group has
produced its Initial Report,
which includes material from the
full Working Group and Work
Tracks 1-4. Work Track 5,
focused on Geographic Names at
the Top-Level, was established
later than the other Work Tracks
and will produce a separate
Initial Report.</span></p>
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<b><span style="color:black">2. <span
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</span>Information about the
Initial Report and the Public
Comment</span></b></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">The
objective of this Initial Report
is to document the Working
Group’s deliberations on charter
issues and preliminary
recommendations, potential
options for recommendations, as
well as specific questions for
which the Working Group is
seeking input. Given the large
number of issues, and the
thousands of hours spent on
addressing the 2012 New gTLD
Program and improvements that
can be made to the program
moving forward, unlike other
Initial Reports, this one does
not contain a “Statement of
level of consensus for the
recommendations presented in the
Initial Report.” The Co-Chairs
not only believed that it was
premature to measure the level
of consensus of the Working
Group members of dozens of
recommendations contained within
the Initial Report, but that
doing so could have the
unintended consequence of
locking Working Group members
into positions of support or
opposition prior to soliciting
public comment from the
community on those
recommendations. To form such
definitive positions at this
early of a stage could have the
adverse effect of being less
open to modifications to those
positions as a result of
community input.</span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">In addition,
though many of the preliminary
recommendations were generally
agreed to by members that
participated in the different
Work Tracks, support has not
been assessed amongst the
members of the overall Working
Group. The Overall Working Group
has not sought to form
definitive positions on each of
these issues at this stage.
Therefore, any language in this
report that suggests that the
Working Group or any of its Work
Tracks is making a
recommendation should be read as
merely a rough assessment by the
Working Group Co-Chairs or Work
Track leads. </span></p>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">After a
comprehensive review of public
comments received on this
report, the Working Group will
deliberate further on the
preliminary recommendations
contained within the Initial
Report. It is possible that as a
result of the deliberations,
there may be supplemental
reports released by the Working
Group seeking additional public
comments. Once all of that is
completed, the Co-Chairs will
conduct any formal consensus
call(s) at the plenary level, on
all recommendations before the
Working Group issues its Final
Report. </span>
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<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">Thank you
for your consideration of this
request. We look forward to any
comments and any input that you
and the organization you Chair
are able to provide to our WG.
While we of course welcome input
on any area of the report, we
would like to stress that given
the extensive number of topics
and preliminary outcomes, you
should not feel compelled to
respond to every single
preliminary recommendation,
option, and question. If
possible, please submit your
comments and input to us by 5
September 2018 so that we may
fully consider it in our further
deliberations.</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black"> </span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">Best
regards,</span></p>
<p style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt"><span
style="color:black">Cheryl
Langdon-Orr and Jeff Neuman (WG
Co-Chairs)</span></p>
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