<div dir="ltr">Agree, Ayden - as you said, the benefits are known and apparently, we don't have to make ICANN committing to making open data. Thank you. <div>Cheers,</div><div>Tanya </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 27 July 2018 at 12:28, Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Feedback from Raoul for the PC’s consideration.<div><br></div><div>As I wrote on the NCSG-Discuss list, I think these benefits are already known to ICANN.<br><div><br></div><div>-Ayden<br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="m_5788498641237492619Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>From: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">"Raoul Plommer" <<a href="mailto:plommer@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">plommer@GMAIL.COM</a>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><b>Re: [Public Comments]: Draft Comment on Open Data Initiative Datasets and Metadata</b><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Date: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">27 July 2018 at 12:23:56 CEST<br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif"><<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><wbr>><br></span></div><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgba(0,0,0,1.0)"><b>Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family:-webkit-system-font,Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,sans-serif">"Raoul Plommer" <<a href="mailto:plommer@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">plommer@GMAIL.COM</a>><br></span></div><div><div class="h5"><br><div><div dir="ltr">Sorry for being late in returning to this, but could we add a sentence or just a small list on why opening data is commendable?<div><br></div><div><p style="box-sizing:inherit;margin:0px 0px 1.5em;color:rgb(51,51,51);line-height:1.6em;text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Open data offers benefits in many areas and ICANN could gain from:</font></p><ul style="box-sizing:inherit;list-style-type:disc;margin:0px 0px 0.75em;padding:0px 0px 0px 1.5em;color:rgb(51,51,51);text-align:left;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Transparency and democratic control</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Participation</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Self-empowerment</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Improved or new private products and services</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Innovation</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Improved efficiency of services</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Improved effectiveness of services</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Impact measurement of policies</font></li><li style="box-sizing:inherit"><font face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">New knowledge from combined data sources and patterns in large data volumes</font></li></ul><div><br></div><div>-Raoul</div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 26 July 2018 at 13:54, Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Sam,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have made some rather substantial (proposed) edits to this statement now. In response to your comment, I have cited recommendation 10.5 of the Accountability and Transparency Review 2, and called for ICANN to provide non-commercial stakeholders with the resources required in order to interrogate and analyse this data.<br></div><div><br></div><div>The Policy Committee is looking over this comment now (hence my last minute edits), but if there are any additional comments/suggestions that anyone has, we would still be able to consider them if they are added to the document today:<br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTk<wbr>gD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,</div><div><br></div><div class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Ayden Férdeline <br></div></div><div class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257protonmail_signature_block-empty m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257protonmail_signature_block-proton"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div class="m_5788498641237492619HOEnZb"><div class="m_5788498641237492619h5"><div> On 23 July 2018 9:02 PM, Sam Lanfranco <<a href="mailto:lanfran@YORKU.CA" target="_blank">lanfran@YORKU.CA</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257protonmail_quote"><div class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257moz-cite-prefix"><div>Colleagues, <br></div><div> <br></div><div> While I fully endorse as much open data access for ICANN as is
possible, without compromising personal privacy, I am sobered by
the general view that in Open Government Data most of the benefits
go to the deep pocketed stakeholders (corporate entities) that
have the financial resources to mine the data. <br></div><div> <br></div><div> Giving civil society access, without it having research resources,
leaves it dependent on those few academics who will mine the data
in the public interest, or when it just occasionally catches data
outliers that raise concerns.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Sam L.,<br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 11:54 PM,
Raphaël Beauregard-Lacroix <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank"></a><a class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com" target="_blank">rbeauregardlacroix@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Elsa, hi all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thank you and the team for taking the time for
drafting the comment. I find that the points raised in
the comment are indeed relevant! From a broader
perspective, it is good that ICANN has plans to publish
more data - I can see a lot of potential for qualitative
and quantitative research here in various fields of
social sciences!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best, <br></div></div><div class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257HOEnZb"><div class="m_5788498641237492619m_4395520673900824257h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div>
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