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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I may be unique in
          that I am the only one on this group who has lived under
          access to information legislation as a bureaucrat, and
          administered the law.  It is routine to ask for this stuff,
          and it has had a very edifying effect on travel expenses in
          the government I must say, over the past 40 years in my
          jurisdiction.  I think we should ask for it, support Ayden. 
          It is an important budget item, and lack of planning has a
          drastic impact on budgets.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-07-27 09:11, Rafik Dammak
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi Ayden,
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        <div>yes, I proposed to delete that one.</div>
        <div>I don't see why it is important or relevant for us to know
          about staff travel with regard to open data. I think we made
          the same point regard staff travel several times in different
          public comments. to be honest, I am personally not interested
          in such information, other PC members can chime in and support
          or not.<br>
          <div><br>
            Best,</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Rafik</div>
          <div><br>
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              <div dir="ltr">Le ven. 27 juil. 2018 à 15:46, Ayden
                Férdeline <<a href="mailto:ayden@ferdeline.com"
                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ayden@ferdeline.com</a>>
                a écrit :<br>
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                <div>I see that one of my edits to the ODI comment was
                  rejected, and I’d like it to be inserted.
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>In the list of omissions, I added a request for a
                    new data set:</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div><i>Full disclosure of staff travel expenses,
                      including class of air travel (first, business,
                      premium economy, economy), number of days in
                      advance of travel that the trip was booked,
                      department, reason for travel, and total cost of
                      the trip; </i></div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>The reason for the rejection was that it was
                    “financial information.”</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>I think this is a very relevant request, and I
                    also note that an <b>existing</b> data set proposed
                    by ICANN org for the ODI is community travel
                    expenditure.</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>So, I’d like us to have access to the same
                    information from staff. I know it is unlikely that
                    we’ll get it, but I think it’s important to ask.</div>
                  <div><br>
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                  <div>Best wishes,</div>
                  <div><br>
                  </div>
                  <div>Ayden</div>
                  <div><br>
                    <div><br>
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                        <div>On 27 Jul 2018, at 04:49, Rafik Dammak <<a
                            href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
                            <div><br>
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                            <div>thanks for the review and comments:</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>those are targeted for submission on
                              27th july.</div>
                            <div>- SSAC Comment is finalized and
                              comments resolved. ready to go. I don't
                              see any objection.</div>
                            <div>- Fellowship comment, the latest
                              paragraphs were deleted, so checking if
                              the current text capture the comments
                              there</div>
                            <div>- ODI comment, Elsa will resolve the
                              comments and last edits. document to be
                              clean up.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>please continue the review and raise
                              any concern. if there is objection I will
                              submit the latest versions (and send them
                              to PC for reference). if there is any
                              issue, we can amend and resubmit.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Best,</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Rafik<br>
                              <br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Le mar. 24 juil. 2018
                                  à 16:05, Rafik Dammak <<a
                                    href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
                                  a écrit :<br>
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                                  <div dir="ltr"><font face="arial,
                                      helvetica, sans-serif">Hi all,</font>
                                    <div><font face="arial, helvetica,
                                        sans-serif"><br>
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                                    <div><font face="arial, helvetica,
                                        sans-serif">here the updated
                                        list of public comment the PC
                                        needs to review for endorsement:</font></div>
                                    <div><font face="arial, helvetica,
                                        sans-serif"><br>
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style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
                                        <li><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif">[Urgent]
                                            SSAC2 review, deadline 27th
                                            July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ttzoZUlN0PU-J5j1o5MG8fjfnqjjAyNsImIYGnexFGw/edit"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ttzoZUlN0PU-J5j1o5MG8fjfnqjjAyNsImIYGnexFGw/edit</a><br>
                                          </font></li>
                                        <li><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif">[Urgent]
                                            Open Data Initiative, 27th
                                            July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit</a><br>
                                          </font></li>
                                        <li><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif">[Urgent]
                                            Draft Proposal on
                                            fellowship, 27th,<span> </span><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rUjAgOGtp3FLX6AsrGpmqC6mnQ17qNRkqQJHpvPYh-Q/edit?usp=sharing"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rUjAgOGtp3FLX6AsrGpmqC6mnQ17qNRkqQJHpvPYh-Q/edit?usp=sharing</a>, <br>
                                          </font></li>
                                        <li><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif">Long-term
                                            Option, 31st July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VItIeJMKjQMinu_IvJ1uJOvXSfTc_4U5ay_k7F6beOQ/edit"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VItIeJMKjQMinu_IvJ1uJOvXSfTc_4U5ay_k7F6beOQ/edit</a><br>
                                          </font></li>
                                        <li><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif">Short-term
                                            Options, 31st July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oh6cxVsFJXheU94A2ieivuz6komPn8fI9f_i_hMqgg8/edit"
style="color:rgb(17,85,204)" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oh6cxVsFJXheU94A2ieivuz6komPn8fI9f_i_hMqgg8/edit</a></font></li>
                                        <li><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif"><span
id="m_6613098922310901810m_-8762175692554397988m_-7521346564402841197gmail-docs-internal-guid-73f97893-cb19-858d-c5c3-78b446b7fe64">
                                              <div
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:center;display:inline"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">Initial Report on the Protections for Certain Red Cross Names </span></div>
                                            </span><span
id="m_6613098922310901810m_-8762175692554397988m_-7521346564402841197gmail-docs-internal-guid-73f97893-cb19-858d-c5c3-78b446b7fe64">
                                              <div
style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:0pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:center;display:inline"><span style="background-color:transparent;font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap">in all gTLDs, 31st July, <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/19xnBgqFoH4eOzgeMQug9y_2oXsCPka6efc9C7TjNQDg/edit" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/19xnBgqFoH4eOzgeMQug9y_2oXsCPka6efc9C7TjNQDg/edit </a></span></div>
                                            </span></font></li>
                                        <li><font face="arial,
                                            helvetica, sans-serif">The
                                            Independent Review Process
                                            Implementation Oversight
                                            Team (IRP-IOT) Draft
                                            Recommendations, 10th
                                            August, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XlDp0qcVUbZYH0qZdijqsoQWQG5V2jsK1NFoYmsRgSc/edit"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XlDp0qcVUbZYH0qZdijqsoQWQG5V2jsK1NFoYmsRgSc/edit</a><br
class="m_6613098922310901810m_-8762175692554397988m_-7521346564402841197gmail-Apple-interchange-newline">
                                          </font><br>
                                        </li>
                                      </ul>
                                      Best,</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Rafik<br>
                                      <br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Le dim. 22 juil.
                                          2018 à 19:58, Rafik Dammak
                                          <<a
                                            href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
                                          a écrit :<br>
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                                          <div dir="ltr">Hi all,
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>we have several public
                                              comments drafts to review
                                              for this month:</div>
                                            <div>
                                              <ul>
                                                <li>SSAC2 review,
                                                  deadline 27th July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ttzoZUlN0PU-J5j1o5MG8fjfnqjjAyNsImIYGnexFGw/edit"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ttzoZUlN0PU-J5j1o5MG8fjfnqjjAyNsImIYGnexFGw/edit</a><br>
                                                </li>
                                                <li>Open Data
                                                  Initiative, 27th
                                                  July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZmWcncubvRV572mZyU0pRKTkgD8K7sT4qPXcn01lk0U/edit</a><br>
                                                </li>
                                                <li>Draft Proposal on
                                                  fellowship, 27th, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rUjAgOGtp3FLX6AsrGpmqC6mnQ17qNRkqQJHpvPYh-Q/edit?usp=sharing"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rUjAgOGtp3FLX6AsrGpmqC6mnQ17qNRkqQJHpvPYh-Q/edit?usp=sharing</a>,
                                                  that is still not
                                                  shared yet in the main
                                                  NCSG list but I will
                                                  do it.<br>
                                                </li>
                                                <li>Long-term Option,
                                                  31st July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VItIeJMKjQMinu_IvJ1uJOvXSfTc_4U5ay_k7F6beOQ/edit"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1VItIeJMKjQMinu_IvJ1uJOvXSfTc_4U5ay_k7F6beOQ/edit</a><br>
                                                </li>
                                                <li>Short-term Options,
                                                  31st July, <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oh6cxVsFJXheU94A2ieivuz6komPn8fI9f_i_hMqgg8/edit"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Oh6cxVsFJXheU94A2ieivuz6komPn8fI9f_i_hMqgg8/edit</a><br>
                                                </li>
                                              </ul>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>please review those
                                              comments for endorsment in
                                              coming days.</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Best,</div>
                                            <div><br>
                                            </div>
                                            <div>Rafik</div>
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