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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">We are getting
          railroaded towards the finish line here.  Here is my latest. 
          <br>
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP </font></font><br>
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            <td>Re: [Epdp-dt] EPDP Scope</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
            <td>Tue, 17 Jul 2018 15:04:19 -0400</td>
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            <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
            <td>Stephanie Perrin
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a></td>
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            <td><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org">epdp-dt@icann.org</a></td>
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      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Ok, I will surrender
            to the will of the group (as usual).  Just out of interest
            though, who of you who said lets all trust in good faith are
            planning to work on the EPDP?  there is nothing like eating
            your own cooking to improve the drive for perfection.....<br>
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      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">The purpose of a
            well scoped Charter and set of deliverables is to make the
            task of the working group clear and simple.  I humbly
            submit, for the record, that we have left a number of vague
            terms and timing criteria in there, and it may cause
            problems later.  A stitch in time saves nine, as the old
            proverb says.</font></font></p>
      <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Cheers Stephanie
            Perrin</font></font><br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-07-17 08:11, Erika Mann
        wrote:<br>
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        cite="mid:29DE116C-087E-41EC-9D1A-7BF578343351@erikamann.com">
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          <div>This group is tasked with (a) difficult goal(s). I share
            Pam's concern concerning a 'harmonized access' model but
            this shouldn't prevent this group from starting the work. </div>
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          <div id="AppleMailSignature">As long as we keep in mind that
            we're searching for a WHOIS (access) model that is workable
            - and legally acceptable - in different jurisdictions, and
            as long we don't become orthodox in our approaches, we
            should be able to see a solid outcome emerging.</div>
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          <div id="AppleMailSignature">Heather, framed it well in her
            last email:</div>
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          <div id="AppleMailSignature"><span
              style="background-color:&#xA; rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"We
              need to resist the temptation of usurping the work of the
              EPDP Team. If language is redundant, they will work around
              it. If it is not perfect, we will empower them to refine,
              and come back to Council with questions where necessary.
              Let's get this team started, and see if these last minute
              issues are truly obstacles to their work."</span></div>
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          <div id="AppleMailSignature">Kind regards,</div>
          <div id="AppleMailSignature">Erika <br>
            <br>
            Sent from my iPhone</div>
          <div><br>
            On Jul 16, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Austin, Donna via Epdp-dt <<a
              href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" moz-do-not-send="true">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Very
                    well said Heather. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                      style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">
                    Epdp-dt [<a href="mailto:epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heather Forrest<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 16, 2018 5:43 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a><br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Epdp-dt] EPDP Scope<o:p></o:p></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal">Colleagues,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">We have travelled a long
                      distance together, and the small group has worked
                      almost non-stop on the scope for nearly 2 weeks
                      now, up against work and family pressures and the
                      tantalising photos of others' summer family
                      holidays. The weight of the task is pushing us to
                      our limits, and it kills me to see the significant
                      efforts at compromise from Panama and the two
                      weeks since come undone in the final 3 days.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">We've said many times - but
                      I'll repeat it here as now it's urgent and very
                      real - that the community's perception of the
                      Council's ability to deliver on its Bylaws mandate
                      by running this EPDP is at stake on Thursday. If
                      we are unable to agree on the charter, there is a
                      live risk that Pandora's box opens. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">We had a text that was fairly
                      stable as of Sunday, based on the timeline that we
                      agreed in the DT call last Wednesday. We need to
                      resist the temptation of usurping the work of the
                      EPDP Team. If language is redundant, they will
                      work around it. If it is not perfect, we will
                      empower them to refine, and come back to Council
                      with questions where necessary. Let's get this
                      team started, and see if these last minute issues
                      are truly obstacles to their work. If we do not
                      get them started, we may never find out. If you
                      are willing to work with the text we have as per
                      Keith's Sunday email and let the Team push
                      forward, now is the time to speak up.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Heather<o:p></o:p></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Jul 17, 2018 at 8:21
                      AM, Pam Little <<a
                        href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pam.little@alibaba-inc.com</a>>
                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Hi
                              Paul, </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Thank
                              you for the feedback.  </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">To
                              me, the goal of the Temp Spec and this
                              EPDP effort is very simple: to comply with
                              the law. </span>"Avoid the fragmentation
                            of WHOIS" or <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">the
                              idea of harmonization </span>as a premise
                            or goal is fundamentally flawed. As you
                            know, there is already fragmentation of
                            WHOIS in the cc world. As far as I know, .JP
                            does not even have a WHOIS service. <o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">More importantly, I would
                            like to point out the latest guidance<span
                              style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"> </span>regarding
                            Codes of Conduct and Accreditation in <span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">the EDPB letter </span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;border:none&#xA;
                              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">(see page 6 </span><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif"><a
href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_correspondence_jelinek-2Dto&d=DwMFaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=wQW2DCZFumEvcBcjrLYjWHhNX_WnA3nWfj5ZdnjZDak&s=rZ0OyCS9JwuSdabv4b6EZcmL-H0wrXCUaiB5LqM6zRI&e="
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
                                  style="font-size:10.5pt;color:purple">https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/correspondence/jelinek-to</span></a></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;border:none&#xA;
                              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">-</span><span
                              class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">marby</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;border:none&#xA;
                              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">-05jul18-en.</span><span
                              class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo"><span
style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">pdf</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;border:none&#xA;
                              windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in">).
                              Specifically: </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                              style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">1.
                               <span
                                class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo">Cer</span></span>tification
                            and/or accreditation are voluntary measures,
                            not mandatory.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">2.  T<span
                              style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">he
                              responsibility for designing a model that
                              will provide the assurance [of compliance
                              with the GDPR] is, in the first instance,
                              up to the data controllers.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">The
                              previous langauge and your latest
                              suggested language pre-suppose there
                              should be a "</span><span
                              style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri&#xA;
Light",sans-serif;color:black;border:none&#xA; windowtext&#xA;
                              1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white">community-wide
                              model for access or similar framework"</span><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;border:none&#xA;
                              windowtext&#xA;
                              1.0pt;padding:0in;background:white">,
                              which in my view, is inconsistent with the
                              above guidance.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">I
                              hope this explains my thinking for my
                              proposed edits.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Kind
                              regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Pam</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">------------------------------------------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sender:Drazek,
                                Keith <<a
                                  href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sent
                                at:2018 Jul 17 (Tue) 01:58</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"><a
href="mailto:To%3APMcGrady@winston.com" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">To:PMcGrady@winston.com</a>
                                <<a
                                  href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>>;
                                PAMELA LITTLE <<a
                                  href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pam.little@alibaba-inc.com</a>>;
                                <a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>
                                <<a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>>;
                                <a
                                  href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>
                                <<a
                                  href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:RE:
                                [Epdp-dt] EPDP Scope</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                          </div>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
                              </div>
                              <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                                  Pam and Paul,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Attached
                                  is an updated version incorporating
                                  Pam’s edits and responding to her
                                  questions. I incorporated Paul’s
                                  suggested language below for Section
                                  J. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <div>
                                  <div
                                    style="border:none;border-top:solid&#xA;
                                    #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
                                    0in&#xA; 0in">
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
                                      McGrady, Paul D. <<a
                                        href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>>
                                      <br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 16, 2018
                                      7:37 AM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b> Pam Little <<a
                                        href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">pam.little@alibaba-inc.com</a>>;
                                      <a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>;
                                      <a
                                        href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">
                                        marika.konings@icann.org</a>;
                                      Drazek, Keith <<a
                                        href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] RE:
                                      [Epdp-dt] EPDP Scope<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                </div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">Hi Pam,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">Thank you for
                                    your proposed edits.  However, I do
                                    think that they eliminate an
                                    important concept that we were
                                    trying to get at and would prefer
                                    the question revert to its previous
                                    formulation.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">If the DT
                                    decides to eliminate the concept of
                                    reconciliation/avoiding an
                                    unharmonized approach, I still think
                                    your proposed changes need some
                                    work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">If we change
                                    to “Can the obligation to provide
                                    “reasonable access” be clarified or
                                    defined…” I think that leads us down
                                    the wrong path.  J1 already focuses
                                    on clarifying and defining
                                    reasonable access.  I think we could
                                    ask “Can the obligation to provide
                                    “reasonable access” be further
                                    clarified and/or better defined
                                    through the implementation of a
                                    community-wide model…”  We lose the
                                    idea of harmonization, which was the
                                    purpose of the question in the first
                                    place, but ultimately those working
                                    on the answer will hopefully take
                                    into account issues that would tend
                                    to bring a discordant result and try
                                    to avoid those outcomes.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">So, Keith, we
                                    would prefer that the question
                                    revert.  If we can’t get that, we
                                    would be OK with:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">“Can the
                                    obligation to provide “reasonable
                                    access” be further clarified and/or
                                    better defined through the
                                    implementation of a </span><span
                                    style="font-family:"Calibri&#xA;
                                    Light",sans-serif">community-wide
                                    model for access or similar
                                    framework which takes into account
                                    at least the following elements:”</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">Best to all,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D">Paul</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
                                    style="color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
                                  Epdp-dt [<a
                                    href="mailto:epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Pam Little<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 16, 2018
                                  1:50 AM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> <a
                                    href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>;
                                  <a
                                    href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>;
                                  Drazek, Keith <<a
                                    href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Epdp-dt] EPDP
                                  Scope<o:p></o:p></p>
                                <p class="MsoNormal"
                                  style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                <div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Hi
                                        Keith</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Many
                                        thanks to you and the small
                                        drafting team for the "final"
                                        draft. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Because
                                        of time zone differences, I have
                                        not had an opportunity to
                                        discuss this with my RrSG
                                        councillors or RrSG members but,
                                        in the interest fo time, I have
                                        made some suggested edits and
                                        queries to the final draft. Most
                                        of them are intended to correct
                                        minor errors or add more clarity
                                        and consistency so I hope they
                                        are not controversial, except
                                        perhaps </span>my proposed
                                      change to J2 below:<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;line-height:12.75pt;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start"><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">"J2) Can the obligation to provide
                                        “reasonable access” be </span><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;color:red">clarified or defined</span><span
                                        style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black"> <s>reconciled
                                          with the objective of
                                          avoiding, to the extent
                                          possible, an unharmonized
                                          approach to third-party access
                                          to registration data, ,</s>
                                        without the implementation of a
                                        community-wide model for access
                                        or similar framework which takes
                                        into account at least the
                                        following elements:"</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;background:white"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">It
                                          seems to me neither the
                                          langauge in the previous draft
                                          (re <span style="border:none
                                            windowtext&#xA;
                                            1.0pt;padding:0in">fragmentation </span>of
                                          WHOIS) nor the final draft was
                                          helpful hence my proposed
                                          change to try to make it more
                                          neutral. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">I
                                        also have a question regarding
                                        the last paragraph in the final
                                        draft:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;font-variant-caps:normal;text-align:start"><em><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">"The
                                          EPDP Team shall respect the </span></em><span
class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo"><i><span
                                            style="font-size:11.5pt;color:black">timelines</span></i></span><em><span
style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black">
                                          and deliverables as outlined
                                          in Annex A and A-1 of the
                                          ICANN Bylaws and the EPDP
                                          Manual. As per the GNSO EPDP
                                          Working Group Guidelines, the
                                          EPDP Team shall develop a work
                                          plan that outlines the
                                          necessary steps and expected
                                          timing in order to achieve the
                                          milestones of the EPDP as set
                                          out in Annex A and A-1 of the
                                          ICANN Bylaws and the EPDP
                                          Manual and submit this to the
                                          GNSO Council. Any significant
                                          updates to the work plan are
                                          expected to be communicated in
                                          a timely manner to the GNSO
                                          Council with an explanation as
                                          to why the work plan needed
                                          adjustment." </span></em><o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">The
                                      final draft Charter has set <span
class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo">timelines</span> for <span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black;background:white">Deliverable
                                        2. Is the EPDP Team expected to
                                        develop a work plan for all
                                        three deliverables? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Kind
                                      regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Pam<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">------------------------------------------------------------------</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sender:Drazek,
                                        Keith via Epdp-dt <<a
                                          href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Sent
                                        at:2018 Jul 16 (Mon) 13:08</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black"><a
href="mailto:To%3AEpdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">To:Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>
                                        <<a
                                          href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>>;
                                        <a
                                          href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>
                                        <<a
                                          href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>></span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif;color:black">Subject:[Epdp-dt]
                                        EPDP Scope</span><o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  </div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hello
                                    again everyone….<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Now
                                    attached is the final draft of the
                                    EPDP WG Charter scope section for
                                    your review and our vote on the 19<sup>th</sup>.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                    have attached the redline version
                                    (against the version circulate to
                                    the DT last Wednesday) and the clean
                                    version.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks
                                    for your patience and for the
                                    constructive input of all parties.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                        style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b>From:</b>
                                        Drazek, Keith <br>
                                        <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 15,
                                        2018 10:28 AM<br>
                                        <b>To:</b> Drazek, Keith <<a
href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com" target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>><br>
                                        <b>Cc:</b> <a
                                          href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>;
                                        <a
                                          href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                          target="_blank"
                                          moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a><br>
                                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [EXTERNAL]
                                        [Epdp-dt] EPDP Scope<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                                      all. Please wait before reviewing.
                                      I may have jumped the gun and we
                                      may have more suggested edits
                                      incoming from NCSG.<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                      On Jul 15, 2018, at 8:44 AM,
                                      Drazek, Keith via Epdp-dt <<a
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                                      wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Hi
                                      all,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">As
                                      discussed on <span
                                        class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo">Wednesday’s</span>
                                      EPDP Drafting Team call, attached
                                      is the final draft of the EPDP
                                      charter scope section. <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">I
                                      received a few suggested edits
                                      from Stephanie and <span
                                        class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo">Darcy</span>
                                      and did my best to
                                      incorporate/address them. The
                                      small group has reviewed and
                                      agreed this is ready for approval
                                      at the 19 July Council meeting.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Thanks
                                      to everyone for your contributions
                                      to this effort.<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Regards,<o:p></o:p></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Keith<o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><Updated
                                      Scope Section 15 July 2018 --
                                      Consolidated Edits.<span
                                        class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo">docx</span>><o:p></o:p></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><Updated
                                      Scope Section 15 July 2018 --
                                      Consolidated Edits CLEAN.<span
                                        class="m1143864745865829759spellchecktypo">docx</span>><o:p></o:p></p>
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