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<p>I hear you. they don't always take my edits, oddly enough. I
will change your edits to mine, otherwise they will be removed
(small team only at this point)</p>
<p>cheers Steph<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-07-13 1:22 PM, farzaneh badii
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style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thanks I had a look I
thank Stephanie for the work but I am livid seeing the
reasonable access questions in part two. Can we 1. modify the
questions under J. Tem Spec and reasonable access 2. move them
to after part 4? If they don't accept it then we have to move
part 3 before
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Temporary Specification and Reasonable Access. <span></span></span></p>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 6:27 AM Rafik Dammak <<a
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<div dir="auto">Please review the scope document and share
you input here.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
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Date: Fri, Jul 13, 2018, 6:07 PM<br>
Subject: [Epdp-dt] Reminder - input due by COB today!!
Fwd: Notes & action items from EPDP DT meeting as well
as Scope Section for review<br>
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<span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)"><b>Action
item</b> <b>#3</b>: DT to review scope document as
presented by Keith (<b>see attached</b>) as soon as
possible, ideally within the next 24 hours, but no
later than by Friday 13 July COB and share any
comments / concerns with the mailing list.</span><br>
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<b>Date:</b> 11 July 2018 at 16:24:30 GMT+2<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> <b>Notes & action items from EPDP
DT meeting as well as Scope Section for review</b><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear All,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please find below the notes and
action items from today’s EPDP DT meeting. A
reminder of the action items:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item</b> <b>#1</b>:
Staff to launch call to appoint members shortly
after this meeting.
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action </b>item #2: Staff
to update draft charter with updates as agreed
(see notes below).
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item</b> <b>#3</b>:
DT to review scope document as presented by Keith
(<b>see attached</b>) as soon as possible, ideally
within the next 24 hours, but no later than by
Friday 13 July COB and share any comments /
concerns with the mailing list. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #4</b>: Keith
to produce updated version by Saturday 14 July,
Sunday 15 July - small team to review updated
version, Monday 16 July - proposed final version
shared with DT.
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #5</b>: If there
are concerns about any of the other remaining
items, please share those with the DT list (by
Friday 13 July COB at the latest).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Best regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Marika</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Notes & Action Items –
EPDP DT Meeting – 11 July 2018</b>:</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="color:black">These
high-level notes are designed to help the DT
navigate through the content of the call and
are not meant as a substitute for the
transcript and/or recording. The MP3,
transcript, and chat are provided separately
and are posted on the wiki at <a
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rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span
style="color:#954f72">https://community.icann.org/x/2wA5BQ
[community.icann.org]</span></a>.</span></i></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Objective of today's
meeting is to finalize charter in view of
Council consideration during 19 July Council
meeting.</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Considerable progress
has been made on a number of items, including
composition, as a result of compromises that
have been made. Let's not loose sight of the
goodwill that has made this progress possible.</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Avoid temptation to
look backwards or forwards, objective is to
produce a charter, not to do the work of the
EPDP Team.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Small team summary:
held 3 meetings since Panama focused on
composition and scope. Proposed composition
text was shared with DT on Saturday 7 July.
This language also included a role
description. Scope has been the main focus of
the last two meetings. Key points that have
come out of the discussion: concerns around
whether there should be a phased or parallel
efforts - ultimately what needs to happen is
that temp spec needs to be confirmed by 25 May
2018, but third party access is also
important. Small team has identified a number
of gating questions that need to be addressed
before discussions can start on the broader
access related questions not covered by the
temp spec (not including the annex). </span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Team composition - as
soon as in principle agreement has been
reached, call for volunteers should be
launched. See latest version as included in
the draft charter documents that were
circulated prior to the meeting. Note also the
requirements to commit to a statement of
participation, as outlined in the draft call
for volunteers that was circulated. Not
adhering to the statement of participation
could result in suspension. </span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Vice-Chair(s):
proposal to have 1 vice chair instead of the
originally proposed two to keep the leadership
team small. Consider leaving it up to the EPDP
Team to decide whether it is one or two. How
is neutrality of vice-chair addressed? Should
this be mentioned in case of replacement of
the chair? EPDP Team could communicate this as
part of the selection process for
vice-chair(s) so that expectations are clear.
Agreement that it should be left up to the
EPDP Team whether it appoints 1 or 2
vice-chairs, noting that should vice-chair
steps into chair role, chair requirements will
need to be adhered to. Update charter as well
as call for vollunteers accordingly.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed change to
iii - replace 'and trademark law' with 'and
other relevant topics'. Agreement.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Double check count of
members/alternates/liaisons in charter and
update if needed.</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item</b> <b>#1</b>:
Staff to launch call to appoint members shortly
after this meeting.
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action </b>item #2: Staff
to update draft charter with updates as agreed
(see notes above).
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Scope</b>:</p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Good progress has
been made by the small team, which is getting
close to a stable document. Some challenges
with the short turn around times and documents
/ comments that have been circulated between
yesterday's meeting and now. </span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">See latest version
shared in Adobe Connect which Keith held the
pen on bringing different aspects of the
discussion together.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Some questions have
been identified as gating questions which
would form the pivot point to determine when
further detailed discussions on access could
start. Once those have been answered it would
be reasonable to start discussions on the
broader access questions.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Note that in relation
to third deliverable on page 8 there is a
reference to full consensus - this is probably
the result of a copy / paste. To be corrected
accordingly. </span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">High level concerns
need to be expressed as soon as possible,
ideally during today's meeting.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Suggestion to not use
the term "non-public registration data", it is
"the personal and sensitive information of
domain name registrants". Concern about
consistency - need to make sure whathever is
used aligns with what is in the Temp spec.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">See objectives &
goals section for the expected deliverables as
well as expected timing.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Timeline currently in
the charter is only specific to temp spec
related questions, needs updating to reflect
this second part dealing with access.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Important to be in a
position to adopt the charter and demonstrate
a united front at the upcoming Council
meeting.
</span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Ideally have all
comments in by Friday so that final version is
produced over the weekend (Sat - Keith to
produce updated version, Sunday - small team
to review, Monday - final version to DT). </span></li>
<li
class="m_-7638554153304178797m_2350317203556345891MsoListParagraph"
style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Ideally no changes to
any of the sections of the charter after
Tuesday.</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item</b> <b>#3</b>:
DT to review scope document as presented by Keith
as soon as possible, ideally within the next 24
hours, but no later than by Friday 13 July COB and
share any comments / concerns with the mailing
list.
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #4</b>: Keith
to produce updated version by Saturday 14 July,
Sunday 15 July - small team to review updated
version, Monday 16 July - proposed final version
shared with DT</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Remaining items</b>:</p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li
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style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">Who reviews EOI
applications? Proposal to have Council
leadership and SSC leadership (Susan, Chair
and Maxim, Vice-Chair) review the EOIs.
Agreement to move forward as proposed (Council
leadership plus SSC leadership). How to deal
with Chair affirmation? Consider having
selection committee decide by full consensus
as all SGs are represented through Council
leadership and SSC chairs. Agreement to have
Council leadership + SSC leadership make a
recommendation by full consensus to the GNSO
Council.
</span></li>
<li
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style="margin-left:0in"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt">If there are concerns
about any of the other items, please share
those with the DT list (by Friday COB at the
latest).</span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b>Action item #5</b>: If there
are concerns about any of the other remaining
items, please share those with the DT list (by
Friday COB at the latest).</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><i>Marika Konings</i></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><i>Vice President, Policy
Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN) </i></p>
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