<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Hi Rafik,<div><br></div><div>This is helpful and thanks for taking the time to share your thoughts and to mention that most of my « worries » are covered by the call for volunteers.</div><div><br></div><div>I don’t have any particular or specific concerns nor do I doubt on our capacity to select the best people but just wanted to bring this out there for consideration.</div><div><br></div><div>I look forward to hearing others thoughts and am expecting anyone who has nothing to contribute with to simply stay quiet as this is also helpful.</div><div><br></div><div>I understand this is work in progress and i am sure we will come up, together, with some guidelines that will inform our support to our representatives.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards,</div><div>Arsene<br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div>-----------------</div><div>Arsène Tungali,</div><div><a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali">about.me/ArseneTungali</a></div><div>+243 993810967</div><div>GPG: 523644A0</div><div>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</div><div><br></div>Sent from my iPhone (excuse typos)</div><div><br>On Jul 11, 2018, at 1:50 PM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">Hi,<div><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><br></div><div>Just wanted to bring this up for consideration and I request this to be seriously discussed. It is well known and agreed that ePDP members will be advancing and representing the positions of their appointed groups, not their personal views. This has been agreed upon based on the nature of this effort.<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>that is indicated in the call for volunteers so everyone understand what they are commiting to.</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div><br></div><div>NCSG reps will, therefore, be representing NCSG views in the WG, which is different from other PDPs though that would be ideal and i am sure our members have been doing their best to best represent us.<br></div><div><br></div><div>For the case of the ePDP, though this looks straightforward, I have been wondering how we can ensure this is what really happens and what are the tools that we will put in place to ensure this is the case. I think it is time we develop some ways to track this and agree on what we need to do in an event one of our reps is not reflecting our views/values or is not consulting with us. I don't think we should "simply trust our representatives".<br></div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>before thinking about the worse case, we are working on coordinating NCSG positions and giving input to our appointed representatives ( again indicated in the call for volunteers as matter of expectation) and they are expected to consult us (ditto). We as PC will also monitor the discussion in the EPDP team via the updates, listening to audiocast of the calls or checking any other useful reporting. I also suggested to have a specific regular EPDP related call to discuss any related topic. any other channel or mechanism is welcome without putting more pressure or burden .</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div></div><div>We haven't discussed any event where a member may lose their membership to the WG and how this may happen. Maybe this is somewhere in the OP or WG Guidelines or somewhere so i will appreciate being pointed out to any existing resources dealing with this specific case.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>not sure to understand this case since it is the NCSG like other groups which appoints or replaces its own representatives. unless you mean the representatives was restrircted or something similar by the EPDP team chair? if a representative is unable for any reason to continue, we got alternate who are supposed to be ready to step in at any time. We are also there to avoid things from escalating and will give guidance to our representatives.</div><div><br></div><div>we need be mindful to need overengineer here. We are going to have the channels for communication, ensure giving regular input to and request updates from representatives so they can be aware. but more important we as obsevers have follow closely the discussion in the EPDP team. We are setting clear expectations in the call for volunteers for the representatives and they are also going to sign the statement.</div><div><br></div><div>when a particular case happen that needs intervention, we can deal with it at that time.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><div> </div></div></div></div>
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