<div><div dir="auto">Kathy </div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">This is the fight we have started. I think they water down the problem by calling it access to nonpublic whois data which if I am not wrong is simply personal information of data subjects! I see Ayden has commented on the document to that effect and I think we should add sensitive data too. </div><div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 11:46 AM Kathy Kleiman <<a href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com">kathy@kathykleiman.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Hi Rafik, Stephanie, Ayden, Martin, Tatiana, Arsene and All,<br>
I'm worried about the absence in the EPDP draft of "sensitive data."
Sensitive data is the part of the GDPR that protects data of those
engaged in political, religious, racial, ethnic, LGBQT activities.
It's a section of the GDPR designed created to protect people who
express minority views -- the very type of organizations who are
often members of NCSG.<br>
<br>
Because GDPR Article 9 protects "sensitive data," and organizations
(which are often "legal entities"), it should be to be expressly
called out in EDPD draft, e.g., as "personal <i>and sensitive </i>data."
The protections GDPR Article 9 also fundamentally implicated in the
calculus of disclosure, e.g., when “access to registration data
based on legitimate interests" [is or is] "not outweighed by the
fundamental rights of relevant data subjects." <i> <a href="https://gdpr-info.eu/art-9-gdpr/" target="_blank">https://gdpr-info.eu/art-9-gdpr/</a></i>
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<br>
I've written a short memo (attached) for you on this topic - with
guidance from Council of Europe's Data Protection Unit. Who else on
Council should I circulate it to? Good luck with the negotiations!<br>
Best, <br>
Kathy<br>
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<div class="m_-3311574880613487043moz-cite-prefix">On 7/10/2018 1:34 AM, Rafik Dammak
wrote:<br>
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<div>thanks, Stephanie for sharing this draft.</div>
<div>indeed all those gating questions are of concerns and will
impact the EPDP progress. Adding the accredited access model
to the EPDP defacto make it longer than planned even if the
team delivers the first final report for the temporary spec
part. That goes beyond the planned 6 months and I don't think
it is doable or can be acceptable to have an intense team like
the envisioned EPDP to be asked to figure out the access model
too. I don't know if the same volunteers or participants have
the same background and knowledge on the 2 different issues.</div>
<div>that should be treated by a separate team while we can
argue about the gating questions and which can be treated by
the EPDP team. We can suggest that the staggered phase can be
started with some conditions TBD and not automatically. those
questions and responses can be approved separately from the
rest of other recommendations in the 1st final report.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Rafik</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Le mar. 10 juil. 2018 à 05:38, Stephanie
Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
a écrit :<br>
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<p>I am not very happy with the "small team" efforts.
My comments are being ignored (surprise surprise) and
the BC/IPC is being permitted to do back room drafting
with staff, after coming in at the last minute (7
minutes to our meeting time) with new language. I
wanted that paragraph thrown out wholesale....</p>
<p>And the questions are not all legit, and if the
answers to the gating questions are not approved by
the community, no matter, we go on regardless.</p>
<p>please take a minute to think about this mess, we are
being driven by artificial deadlines to finish and
agree.</p>
<p>steph<br>
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<td>Caitlin Tubergen <a class="m_-3311574880613487043m_6389885195010698452moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:caitlin.tubergen@icann.org" target="_blank"><caitlin.tubergen@icann.org></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Following
our call today, Donna and I have been working on
the Google Doc from this morning’s EPDP Scope
call. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Here
are the changes we made:</span></p>
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<ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Based on the comments
from Paul and others regarding the difficulty
of tracking comments in Google docs to the
text, I inserted proposed text into the body
of the document where the commenter is
proposing it should go. All proposed text is
denoted by <i><span style="background:yellow">italics
and highlighted in yellow</span></i> for
ease of reference. I’m hoping that will make
it easier to discuss on the call by zeroing in
on highlighted text. </span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">I have removed
references to phases and inserted references
to gating questions. This text has been
highlighted in <span style="background:yellow">yellow</span> to
note that it has been changed. </span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Proposed gating
questions have their numbering highlighted in <span style="background:lime">green</span>. There
may be other gating questions, but I
highlighted the originally-proposed gating
questions as a starting point.</span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Donna and I added
some comments on what the group appeared to
converge on during today’s call. </span></li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Lastly, I attached
the notes from today’s call in case you find
these helpful as you’re going through the
document. </span></li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Here
is the link to the Google Doc: <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TlcnfYuRhrCKVB28Rvb_ra6mCIWvjUDnJyJhSjbG5_Q/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TlcnfYuRhrCKVB28Rvb_ra6mCIWvjUDnJyJhSjbG5_Q/edit</a></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Thank
you, and please let me know if there is anything
I can do to assist in your review of the
document.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Kind
regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"><br>
Caitlin</span></p>
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