<div dir="ltr">Transcription please, and they should keep up with the tech solutions available. It is not only transparency but accessibility, research and analysis.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 4:06 AM, Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>This is a cost of doing business for ICANN. </div>
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<div>Yes, we should continue to request that all meetings be transcribed. </div>
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<div>The response is very odd anyway. Why must the Verizon audio bridge be used for transcription? Why can’t they just sent the mp3 file over to the transcriber?</div>
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            <div><b>From:</b> Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org" target="_blank">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>
                <br><b>Date:</b> July 1, 2018 at 12:34:17 AM GMT+2
                <br><b>To:</b> "Austin, Donna" <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>>, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>>
                <br><b>Cc:</b> "<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>>
                <br><b>Subject:</b>  <b>Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods</b>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">If I am not mistaken, the costs for transcripts are approx. 300 USD per hour. It should be taken into account though that if transcripts are expected with the current quality and turnaround time, it also means that all calls will need
                        to be held on a Verizon phone bridge which is more expensive than a non-operator PGI call which is currently used for smaller calls such as sub-team or work track meetings for which no transcripts are requested. As such, if you
                        decide to request that transcripts are made available for all EPDP calls, this will need to be called out in the ‘resources expected to be available’ section as it is not part of the standard services.
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Epdp-dt <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank">epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org</a>> on behalf of "Austin, Donna via Epdp-dt" <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Reply-To: </b>Donna Austin <<a href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank">Donna.Austin@team.neustar</a>><br>
<b>Date: </b>Saturday, June 30, 2018 at 16:15<br>
<b>To: </b>Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>><br>
<b>Cc: </b>"<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods<u></u><u></u></span>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">I agree, transcripts don’t equate to transparency.
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">It would be helpful to understand the cost and make a judgment about benefit v cost.
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">I think we’ve identified a number of benefits and we should also take into account that we expect alternates for the EPDP to keep up to date with events and it seems to me that transcripts could be the most efficient way to do
                            this.
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                                <br>On Jun 30, 2018, at 2:04 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> Ayden F</span><span style="font-family:MingLiU;color:black">篓</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic";color:black">娄</span><span style="color:black">rdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, June 30, 2018 3:45:19 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michele Neylon - Blacknight<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Stephanie Perrin; <a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">epdp-dt@icann.org</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods</span> 
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">While I think it is reasonable to ask how much transcription costs, ultimately transparency is an institutional concept mandated by our own Operating Procedures and a conceptual component of the principle of democracy.
                                            The legitimation of any authority, including that of ICANN, requires decisions that are reached, including the political and non-political objectives that feed into these decisions, to be properly understood
                                            and withstand scrutiny. Scrutiny is impossible without detailed and accessible records. This is negotiable only up to a point. We can negotiate over who does the transcripts or how long they take to produce
                                            (and I don't think they need to be fast-tracked ordinarily), but we cannot negotiate over whether transcripts are produced.
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">This EPDP will attract a great level of interest and scrutiny from across the ICANN community. I think it is of the highest importance for the credibility of the GNSO that our agenda setting and decision making
                                            processes be seen as being as transparent as possible, particularly in light of the attention that this EPDP will generate.
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">On 30 June 2018 10:38 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank">michele@blacknight.com</a>> wrote:
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                                                <p class="MsoNormal">On 30 Jun 2018, at 14:29, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:
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                                                <p><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif">There are so many advantages...transcripts are searchable, you can do analytics on them with easily available tools (Discourse analysis, e.g.), you can copy and put it through google
 translate....a matter that is rather basic in terms of fundamental fairness to non-english language speakers.  I think for the amount of money we are blowing on belated compliance with DP law, this is peanuts.</span></span>
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                                                <p><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"Lucida Grande",sans-serif">cheers Stephanie</span></span>
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                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">On 2018-06-29 14:16, Martin Pablo Silva Valent wrote:
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                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> Oh yes! Specially for timing, I can read insanely faster than I have to listen to a recording (even if I only have to listen to it once). 
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                                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">A question for our multi-lingual colleagues. Are transcripts better/easier for non-English speakers to review a meeting than listening to the recording? </span></span>
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                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">On Jun 28, 2018, at 5:24 PM, Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">michele@blacknight.com</span>
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                                                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">If the transcription was <span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">
隆</span><span style="font-family:MingLiU">掳</span>cost effective<span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">隆</span><span style="font-family:MingLiU">卤</span> then I wouldn<span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">隆炉</span>t have as much of an
                                                                                        issue with it, but I<span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">隆炉</span>d prefer we had some visibility on costs before we make a commitment to it
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                                                                                        value in the meetings overall, but you should be able to get that from the minutes / notes of the meetings
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                                                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span></span>
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                                                                                            </span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Carlos Raul Gutierrez
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<span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><b>Date:</b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size">Thursday 28 June 2018 at 16:19</span>
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                                                                                            </a>" <<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</span></a>></span>
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                                                                                            <span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><b>Cc:</b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size">Michele Neylon <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">michele@blacknight.com</span>
                                                                                            </a>>, "<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">epdp-dt@icann.org</span></a>" <
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                                                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">El 2018-06-28 16:10, Martin Pablo Silva Valent escribi</span><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">篓庐</span>
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                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">I agree with Ayden that transcript are a useful feature for this kind of work at icann. And we already have automated transcript as far as I know, we can ask for
                                                                                                opinon to staff towards cost, but is not intuitive to me that transcripts are not worthy in such a special case. The value for transparency and the ability
                                                                                                to read debate is also very useful.
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                                                                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Mart<span style="font-family:MingLiU">篓</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">陋</span>n
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                                                                                                <p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 19:29 Michele Neylon - Blacknight <<a href="mailto:michele@blacknight.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">michele@blacknight.com</span></a>>
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                                                                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">I disagree with the transcription of all meetings. The costs involved with that are disproportionately high and ICANN funds would be better directed
                                                                                                            elsewhere
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                                                                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">I agree with most of your other points.
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Mr Michele Neylon</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Blacknight Solutions</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Hosting, Colocation & Domains</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.blacknight.com_&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=4GoSbA0reGcerFxZphEnC1dQKCIHdPldkTeiFxX7fFA&e=" target="_blank"><span class="m_4714528533671104418colour"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://www.blacknight.com/</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__blacknight.blog_&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=DRmsyb0uCS74iam9yMz3ThaRYBc8mQZCGSR89xB8biQ&e=" target="_blank"><span class="m_4714528533671104418colour"><span style="color:#0563c1">http://blacknight.blog/</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Intl. +353 (0) 59  9183072</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Personal blog: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__michele.blog_&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=YkqOfoXTlsEuCPvLLcXTrLiREkiHct-aZhWb5EvCtKM&e=" target="_blank"><span class="m_4714528533671104418colour"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://michele.blog/</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Some thoughts: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__ceo.hosting_&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=e159ARWweTxJY7yC-i5sBUuUfYKzbmvetN1FFZ23ulA&e=" target="_blank"><span class="m_4714528533671104418colour"><span style="color:#0563c1">https://ceo.hosting/</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"-webkit-standard",serif">Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,R93 X265,Ireland  Company No.: 370845</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><b><span style="font-size:12.0pt">From:</span>
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                                                                                                                </span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Epdp-dt <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">epdp-dt-bounces@icann.org</span>
                                                                                                                </a>> on behalf of Ayden F</span>
                                                                                                                </span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">篓</span></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"">娄</span></span>
                                                                                                                <span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">rdeline
 <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">icann@ferdeline.com</span>
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<span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b>Reply-To:</b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size">Ayden F</span></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:MingLiU">篓</span></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"MS Gothic"">娄</span></span>
                                                                                                                    <span class="m_4714528533671104418size"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">rdeline
 <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">icann@ferdeline.com</span>
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<span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b>Date:</b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size">Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 17:34</span>
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                                                                                                                        <span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b>To:</b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size">"<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">epdp-dt@icann.org</span>
                                                                                                                        </a>" <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">epdp-dt@icann.org</span></a>></span>
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                                                                                                                        <span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b>Subject:</b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418size">[Epdp-dt] Working Methods</span></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">I would like to request several revisions be made to the EPDP Working Methods please:
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 to be decided by EPDP team), the EPDP team will need appropriate support to:</i></span>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">To:
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><i>All calls of the EPDP must be recorded and transcribed, and said recordings and call transcriptions must be publicly accessible from the ICANN website. Standard support offered to GNSO PDP Working Groups, including
 but not limited to the provision of a wiki space, archived mailing lists, and conference call facilities, will be required. In addition, the EPDP will need appropriate support to:</i></span>
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b>2) Google Docs may</b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b><u>only</u></b></span>
                                                                                                                <span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><b> </b>
                                                                                                                    </span><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b>be used in conjunction
 with Google Vault.</b></span>
                                                                                                                    <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
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                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Please revise the text from:
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
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                                                                                                    </div>
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                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><i>the EPDP Team should consider which tools provide the best flexibility to facilitate online collaboration, such as the wiki and Google docs.</i></span>
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">To:
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><i>the EPDP Team should consider which tools provide the best flexibility to facilitate online collaboration, but it must do so in accordance with the principles of accountability and transparency that are so important
 to the GNSO. If Google Docs or other G Suite products are used, it</i></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><i> </i></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><i><u>must</u></i></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418apple-converted-space"><i> </i></span><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><i>be used in
 conjunction with Google Vault, which logs data for archival purposes. Similarly, if other tools are used, they may be used only if they preserve information to a level that meets or exceeds eDiscovery standards in California, being the location of ICANN's
 headquarters.</i></span>
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><b>3) Translation of executive summary and recommendations of the initial report for public comment, and of the entire final report, into ICANN's official languages.</b></span>
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Suggested text:
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><i>The substantive work of the EPDP must be translated into ICANN's official languages in order to provide non-English-fluent stakeholders with an equal level of access to review the work of the EPDP. For the initial
 report(s), this must consist of the executive summary and recommendations, and for the final report, this must be a translation of the entire report.</i></span>
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
                                                                                                        </div>
                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
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                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Ayden F<span style="font-family:MingLiU">篓</span><span style="font-family:"MS Gothic"">娄</span>rdeline
                                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                            </p>
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                                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                                </div>
                                                                                            </div>
                                                                                            <div>
                                                                                                <div>
                                                                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________
                                                                                                        <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                    </p>
                                                                                                </div>
                                                                                                <div>
                                                                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Epdp-dt mailing list
                                                                                                        <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                    </p>
                                                                                                </div>
                                                                                                <div>
                                                                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">Epdp-dt@icann.org</span></a>
                                                                                                        <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                    </p>
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                                                                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_epdp-2Ddt&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=NcAFBsM3QosMQBljp1z92iaJHH5KK4oskW3NvlC2MAs&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/epdp-dt</span></a>
                                                                                                        <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                                    </p>
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                                                                                        <p class="MsoNormal"> 
                                                                                            <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                        </p>
                                                                                    </div>
                                                                                    <div>
                                                                                        <div>
                                                                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><span style="font-family:"Courier New"">______________________________<wbr>_________________</span></span><span style="font-family:"Courier New""><br>
<span class="m_4714528533671104418font">Epdp-dt mailing list</span>
                                                                                                <br>
                                                                                                <span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">Epdp-dt@icann.org</span>
                                                                                                </a>
                                                                                                </span>
                                                                                                <br>
                                                                                                <span class="m_4714528533671104418font"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_epdp-2Ddt&d=DwMGaQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=NcAFBsM3QosMQBljp1z92iaJHH5KK4oskW3NvlC2MAs&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/epdp-dt</span>
                                                                                                </a>
                                                                                                </span>
                                                                                                </span>
                                                                                                <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                            </p>
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                                                                                    </div>
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                                                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">______________________________<wbr>_________________<u></u><u></u></span>
                                                                                </p>
                                                                            </div>
                                                                            <div>
                                                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica">Epdp-dt mailing list<u></u><u></u></span>
                                                                                </p>
                                                                            </div>
                                                                            <div>
                                                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">Epdp-dt@icann.org</span>
                                                                                    </a>
                                                                                    <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                    </span>
                                                                                </p>
                                                                            </div>
                                                                            <div>
                                                                                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9.0pt;font-family:Helvetica"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_epdp-2Ddt&d=DwICAg&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0HE-eO2cj94PCdo&s=NcAFBsM3QosMQBljp1z92iaJHH5KK4oskW3NvlC2MAs&e=" target="_blank"><span style="color:purple">https://urldefense.proofpoint.<wbr>com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.<wbr>icann.org_mailman_listinfo_<wbr>epdp-2Ddt&d=DwICAg&c=<wbr>MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=<wbr>CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_<wbr>QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=<wbr>n3C0DJgkQIyr0HoJHZTeIN36Y0AO0H<wbr>E-eO2cj94PCdo&s=<wbr>NcAFBsM3QosMQBljp1z92iaJHH5KK4<wbr>oskW3NvlC2MAs&e=</span>
                                                                                    </a>
                                                                                    <u></u><u></u>
                                                                                    </span>
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                                                            <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                                <u></u> <u></u>
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                                                    </div>
                                                    <div>
                                                        <p class="MsoNormal">
                                                            <u></u> <u></u>
                                                        </p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <pre>______________________________<wbr>_________________<u></u><u></u></pre>
                                                    <pre>Epdp-dt mailing list<u></u><u></u></pre>
                                                    <pre><a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
                                                    <pre><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_epdp-2Ddt&d=DwMFoQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=UZRtiJnLGE7sDcDgH7ykgEHhzQ4NW2goWx1l8AeXQew&s=6R0KUMuvgBvUd6EXg7HhXPNxwy8KvLJCfMHP72HqkiY&e=" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/epdp-dt</a><u></u><u></u></pre>
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                                        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
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                                                <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________
                                                        <u></u><u></u>
                                                    </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal">Epdp-dt mailing list
                                                        <u></u><u></u>
                                                    </p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>
                                                        <u></u><u></u>
                                                    </p>
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                                                <div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_epdp-2Ddt&d=DwMFoQ&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=UZRtiJnLGE7sDcDgH7ykgEHhzQ4NW2goWx1l8AeXQew&s=6R0KUMuvgBvUd6EXg7HhXPNxwy8KvLJCfMHP72HqkiY&e=" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/epdp-dt</a>
                                                        <u></u><u></u>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal">
                                            <u></u> <u></u>
                                        </p>
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                        <blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
                            <div>
                                <p class="MsoNormal">______________________________<wbr>_________________
                                    <br>Epdp-dt mailing list
                                    <br>
                                    <a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a>
                                    <br>
                                    <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.icann.org_mailman_listinfo_epdp-2Ddt&d=DwICAg&c=MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=UZRtiJnLGE7sDcDgH7ykgEHhzQ4NW2goWx1l8AeXQew&s=6R0KUMuvgBvUd6EXg7HhXPNxwy8KvLJCfMHP72HqkiY&e=" target="_blank">https://urldefense.proofpoint.<wbr>com/v2/url?u=https-3A__mm.<wbr>icann.org_mailman_listinfo_<wbr>epdp-2Ddt&d=DwICAg&c=<wbr>MOptNlVtIETeDALC_lULrw&r=<wbr>CwipU91YB6EkpFXK9ynnT_<wbr>QUef4yC5p7jpsDm8cU97g&m=<wbr>UZRtiJnLGE7sDcDgH7ykgEHhzQ4NW2<wbr>goWx1l8AeXQew&s=<wbr>6R0KUMuvgBvUd6EXg7HhXPNxwy8KvL<wbr>JCfMHP72HqkiY&e=</a>
                                    <u></u><u></u>
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        </blockquote>
        <blockquote type="cite">
            <div><span>______________________________<wbr>_________________</span>
                <br><span>Epdp-dt mailing list</span>
                <br><span><a href="mailto:Epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank">Epdp-dt@icann.org</a></span>
                <br><span><a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/epdp-dt" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/epdp-dt</a></span>
            </div>
        </blockquote>
    </blockquote>
</div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
NCSG-PC mailing list<br>
<a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br>
<a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br>
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