<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Dear Farzaneh, chair of the NCSG<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I am not sure to understand your point here, why transcription in other languages does not make sense?<br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 28 Jun 2018, at 02:45, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" class="">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">are we talking about transcription in languages other than English? </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">transcription of formal meetings in English makes sense, it has been helpful. I don't think it makes sense to have transcription in other languages. but I am not sure that is being debated. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br class=""></div><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><font face="verdana, sans-serif" class="">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 8:41 PM Martin Pablo Silva Valent <<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" class="">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">I agree that transcript in other languages would be good in almost every mesure posible, specially if we have AI and bulk prices on it. At least is worth asking staff how that impact this one time on Budget.<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto" class="">Martín</div></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 19:37 dorothy g <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com" target="_blank" class="">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr" class="">Why are the costs high? Are we not using AI? Which languages are we transcribing to? Perhaps Mr. Neylon could tell us more about the disproportionate costs?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 12:31 AM, Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="">I will need back up here from Councillors. </div>
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<br class="">Date: On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 19:28
<br class="">Subject: Fwd: Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods
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<b class="">Date: </b>Wednesday 27 June 2018 at 17:34<br class="">
<b class="">To: </b>"<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>><br class="">
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><i class="">In addition to the standard services provided to GNSO PDP Working Groups such as policy staff support, mailing lists and regular conference calls, including recording and transcription where needed (frequency and duration to be decided
by EPDP team), the EPDP team will need appropriate support to:</i>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><i class="">All calls of the EPDP must be recorded and transcribed, and said recordings and call transcriptions must be publicly accessible from the ICANN website. Standard support offered to GNSO PDP Working Groups, including but not limited to
the provision of a wiki space, archived mailing lists, and conference call facilities, will be required. In addition, the EPDP will need appropriate support to:</i>
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><i class="">the EPDP Team should consider which tools provide the best flexibility to facilitate online collaboration, but it must do so in accordance with the principles of accountability and transparency that are so important to the GNSO. If Google
Docs or other G Suite products are used, it <u class="">must</u> be used in conjunction with Google Vault, which logs data for archival purposes. Similarly, if other tools are used, they may be used only if they preserve information to a level that meets or exceeds
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<div class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><i class="">The substantive work of the EPDP must be translated into ICANN's official languages in order to provide non-English-fluent stakeholders with an equal level of access to review the work of the EPDP. For the initial report(s), this must
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