<div dir="auto">I agree that transcript in other languages would be good in almost every mesure posible, specially if we have AI and bulk prices on it. At least is worth asking staff how that impact this one time on Budget.<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto">Martín</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Jun 27, 2018, 19:37 dorothy g <<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Why are the costs high? Are we not using AI? Which languages are we transcribing to? Perhaps Mr. Neylon could tell us more about the disproportionate costs?</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 28, 2018 at 12:31 AM, Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I will need back up here from Councillors. </div>
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<br>Subject: Fwd: Re: [Epdp-dt] Working Methods
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<p class="MsoNormal">I disagree with the transcription of all meetings. The costs involved with that are disproportionately high and ICANN funds would be better directed elsewhere
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<b>To: </b>"<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:epdp-dt@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">epdp-dt@icann.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would like to request several revisions be made to the EPDP Working Methods please:
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<p class="MsoNormal"><i>In addition to the standard services provided to GNSO PDP Working Groups such as policy staff support, mailing lists and regular conference calls, including recording and transcription where needed (frequency and duration to be decided
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