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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Yes I had the chance
to have breakfast with Graeme Bunton this morning.
Interesting. I am glad he is going to run again, many of the
registrars are getting just worn out with this bullshit.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Steph</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-06-23 11:55, farzaneh badii
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<div dir="auto">Thanks a lot stephanie </div>
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<div dir="auto">Yes I think we should move towards taking
acc/standardaization discussion out of this for the moment.
Focus on access. Also we should not call those sessions high
interest sessions because they are cross community. I know icann
tagging is confusing. The difference betwee the two is that high
interest session can be ogranized by one group but cc should be
organized by various groups. Which wasnt the case this time the
louder i shouted the more was ignored but will bring it up again
at leaders session. </div>
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<div>On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 12:30 PM Stephanie Perrin <<a
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">as usual,
not a moment too soon. Thoughts and suggestions
would be most welcome. I thought I would point to
the IG blog Farzi just did, and point out the
different jobs that standards would do. I think we
need to dissect, for clairty, what we mean by
accreditation, what we mean by standards, and what
aspects of data protection law are factilitated by a
standards based approach. As Farzi's blog points
out (although not in the DP or standards
perspective) the rush to come up with a system and
procedure that perpetuates the status quo is not
helpful in discerning or illuminating what is
necessary for a data controller/processor to give a
third party access.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I will see
if I can hook up with Palage in the meantime. <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Steph</font></font><br>
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<td>Panama high-interest session on Accred &
Access to non-public Whois data (Tuesday June
26, 2018; 17:00 – 18:30 local time)</td>
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<td>Steve DelBianco <a
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<td>Goran Marby <a
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href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><goran.marby@icann.org></a>,
John Jeffrey <a
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href="mailto:john.jeffrey@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><john.jeffrey@icann.org></a>,
Alex Deacon <a
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href="mailto:alex@colevalleyconsulting.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><alex@colevalleyconsulting.com></a>,
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href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>
<a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>,
Stephanie Perrin <a
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href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>,
Rod Rasmussen <a
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href="mailto:rod@rodrasmussen.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rod@rodrasmussen.com></a>,
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href="mailto:Cathrin.BAUER-BULST@ec.europa.eu"
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<a
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href="mailto:Cathrin.BAUER-BULST@ec.europa.eu"
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Fabricio Vayra <a
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Michael Palage <a
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<td>Cyrus Namazi <a
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href="mailto:cyrus.namazi@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cyrus.namazi@icann.org></a>,
Brian Winterfeldt <a
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href="mailto:brian@winterfeldt.law"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><brian@winterfeldt.law></a>,
Selli, Claudia <a
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href="mailto:cs574w@intl.att.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cs574w@intl.att.com></a>,
Manal Ismail <a
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href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><manal@tra.gov.eg></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Just
a note to confirm you as panelists for Tuesday’s
session in Panama, regarding accreditation and
access to non-Public Whois data. The panel is
described below, and here is the panel lineup:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Goran Marby
and/or John Jeffrey, ICANN. See ICANN Org’s
proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> Unified
Access Model</a> , and <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-unified-access-model-summary-elements-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> chart</a>
comparing with IPC/BC and Palage models.</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Alex Deacon,
BC </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Keith Drazek,
RySG </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stephanie
Perrin, NCSG </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Rod
Rasmussen, SSAC. See SSAC Advisory </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-101-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">here</a><span
style="color:black">. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Cathrin
Bauer-Bulst, European Commission </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">& GAC PSWG<span
style="color:black"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Fabricio
Vayra, IPC. See <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-whois-accreditation-access-model-v1.6-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> IPC/BC
model for Accredited Access (v1.6)</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Michael Palage, author of
<a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/palage-differentiated-registrant-data-access-model-philly-special-v2.0-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> “Philly
Special” model for Differentiated Registrant
Data Access</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It’s
a large panel, but we need these representative
views to advance a unified model for accreditation
& access. We will not do opening statements
by each panelist, but will instead give you ample
time to answer structured questions about
designing and implementing a unified model.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">As
your moderator, I’d like to propose the following
questions and timing, and I welcome your thoughts
on this:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Introduction
of Panelists – Brief overview of topics – <i>Steve
DelBianco</i> </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(figure 10
minutes, since we rarely begin on-time)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1. What are
the most important characteristics we need in an
Accredited Access model? </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">2. What is
your assessment of </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ICANN Org’s
proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> Unified
Access Model</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">, and how
could that model be improved? </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">3. Talk about
your preferred way to implement this model.
Should ICANN Org do another Temp Spec, or let GNSO
Council develop one via an expedited PDP, or find
a way for Org and GNSO to work together? </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">4. Brief
conclusory remarks from each panelist, on key
concerns or considerations in implementing an
Accredited Access model. </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(10 minutes –
allowing 1 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Audience
questions and answer </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(20 minutes) </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Session
2: Accreditation and Access to Non-Public
WHOIS Data Post-GDPR (Tuesday June 26, 2018;
17:00 – 18:30 local time)</span></u></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Description</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">: Under the
Temporary Specification passed by the ICANN Board
implementing the interim GDPR compliance model,
there is a placeholder for an accreditation system
to </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">allow<span
style="color:black"> uniform access to
non-public WHOIS data by appropriate users for
legitimate purposes. Under the Temp</span> Spec<span
style="color:black">, contracted parties must
provide non-public registration data for
legitimate purposes specified in Section 4 of
the Temp</span> <span style="color:black">Spec,
unless the request for access is outweighed by
the domain name registrant’s fundamental right
to privacy. </span>The</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Article 29
Working Party </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/statement-edpb-whois-27may18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">issued a
statement</a><span style="color:black"> </span>--
endorsed by the <span style="color:black">European
Data Protection Board (EDPB) -- encouraging
ICANN to develop an access model. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">T<span
style="color:black">here is </span>now <span
style="color:black">no uniform system for
approving legitimate users </span>for<span
style="color:black"> access to non-public
registration data </span> for<span
style="color:black"> legitimate purposes, </span>so
<span style="color:black"> contracted parties </span>must<span
style="color:black"> perform ad</span>-<span
style="color:black">hoc individual review of
each request for data. </span></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Three models have been
proposed thus far: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-whois-accreditation-access-model-v1.6-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> IPC/BC
model for Accredited Access (v1.6)</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">The <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/palage-differentiated-registrant-data-access-model-philly-special-v2.0-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> “Philly
Special” model for Differentiated Registrant
Data Access</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ICANN Org’s
proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> Unified
Access Model</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">It is urgent
that ICANN </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Org,
European regulators, <span style="color:black">
and the community come together </span>on<span
style="color:black"> </span>a <span
style="color:black"> workable credentialed
access system for non-public WHOIS data for
legitimate purposes. In this cross-community
session, panelists will engage with the
community to discuss developing a credentialed
access system and next steps for </span>implement
<span style="color:black">via </span>a <span
style="color:black"> Temporary Specification or
as part of the expedited policy development
process </span> conducted by the GNSO<span
style="color:black">.</span></span></p>
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