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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Yes I had the chance
          to have breakfast with Graeme Bunton this morning. 
          Interesting.  I am glad he is going to run again, many of the
          registrars are getting just worn out with this bullshit.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Steph</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-06-23 11:55, farzaneh badii
      wrote:<br>
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        <div dir="auto">Thanks a lot stephanie </div>
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      <div dir="auto">Yes I think we should move towards taking
        acc/standardaization  discussion out of this for the moment.
        Focus on access. Also we should not call those sessions high
        interest sessions because they are cross community. I know icann
        tagging is confusing. The difference betwee the two is that high
        interest session can be ogranized by one group but cc should be
        organized by various groups. Which wasnt the case this time the
        louder i shouted the more was ignored but will bring it up again
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          <div>On Sat, Jun 23, 2018 at 12:30 PM Stephanie Perrin <<a
              href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
              moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">as usual,
                    not a moment too soon.  Thoughts and suggestions
                    would be most welcome.  I thought I would point to
                    the IG blog Farzi just did, and point out the
                    different jobs that standards would do.  I think we
                    need to dissect, for clairty, what we mean by
                    accreditation, what we mean by standards, and what
                    aspects of data protection law are factilitated by a
                    standards based approach.  As Farzi's blog points
                    out (although not in the DP or standards
                    perspective) the rush to come up with a system and
                    procedure that perpetuates the status quo is not
                    helpful in discerning or illuminating what is
                    necessary for a data controller/processor to give a
                    third party access.</font></font></p>
              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I will see
                    if I can hook up with Palage in the meantime. <br>
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              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Steph</font></font><br>
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                      <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap"
                        align="RIGHT">Subject: </th>
                      <td>Panama high-interest session on Accred &
                        Access to non-public Whois data (Tuesday June
                        26, 2018; 17:00 – 18:30 local time)</td>
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                      <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap"
                        align="RIGHT">Date: </th>
                      <td>Sat, 23 Jun 2018 16:02:41 +0000</td>
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                      <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap"
                        align="RIGHT">From: </th>
                      <td>Steve DelBianco <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><sdelbianco@netchoice.org></a></td>
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                      <th valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap"
                        align="RIGHT">To: </th>
                      <td>Goran Marby <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><goran.marby@icann.org></a>,
                        John Jeffrey <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:john.jeffrey@icann.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><john.jeffrey@icann.org></a>,
                        Alex Deacon <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:alex@colevalleyconsulting.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><alex@colevalleyconsulting.com></a>,
                        <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                          href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">kdrazek@verisign.com</a>
                        <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>,
                        Stephanie Perrin <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>,
                        Rod Rasmussen <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:rod@rodrasmussen.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rod@rodrasmussen.com></a>,
                        <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-abbreviated"
                          href="mailto:Cathrin.BAUER-BULST@ec.europa.eu"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Cathrin.BAUER-BULST@ec.europa.eu</a>
                        <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:Cathrin.BAUER-BULST@ec.europa.eu"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><Cathrin.BAUER-BULST@ec.europa.eu></a>,
                        Fabricio Vayra <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:FVayra@perkinscoie.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><FVayra@perkinscoie.com></a>,
                        Michael Palage <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:Michael@palage.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><Michael@palage.com></a></td>
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                        align="RIGHT">CC: </th>
                      <td>Cyrus Namazi <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:cyrus.namazi@icann.org"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cyrus.namazi@icann.org></a>,
                        Brian Winterfeldt <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:brian@winterfeldt.law"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><brian@winterfeldt.law></a>,
                        Selli, Claudia <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:cs574w@intl.att.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cs574w@intl.att.com></a>,
                        Manal Ismail <a
                          class="m_-1205387461694177705moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                          href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true"><manal@tra.gov.eg></a></td>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Just
                      a note to confirm you as panelists for Tuesday’s
                      session in Panama, regarding accreditation and
                      access to non-Public Whois data.  The panel is
                      described below, and here is the panel lineup:</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Goran Marby
                      and/or John Jeffrey, ICANN.   See ICANN Org’s
                      proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> Unified
                        Access Model</a> , and <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-unified-access-model-summary-elements-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> chart</a>
                      comparing with IPC/BC and Palage models.</span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Alex Deacon,
                      BC  </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Keith Drazek,
                      RySG  </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stephanie
                      Perrin, NCSG  </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Rod
                      Rasmussen, SSAC.   See SSAC Advisory </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
                        href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-101-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">here</a><span
                        style="color:black">. </span></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Cathrin
                      Bauer-Bulst, European Commission </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">& GAC PSWG<span
                        style="color:black"> </span></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Fabricio
                      Vayra, IPC.   See <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-whois-accreditation-access-model-v1.6-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> IPC/BC
                        model for Accredited Access (v1.6)</a></span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Michael Palage, author of
                      <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/palage-differentiated-registrant-data-access-model-philly-special-v2.0-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> “Philly
                        Special” model for Differentiated Registrant
                        Data Access</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It’s
                      a large panel, but we need these representative
                      views to advance a unified model for accreditation
                      & access.   We will not do opening statements
                      by each panelist, but will instead give you ample
                      time to answer structured questions about
                      designing and implementing a unified model.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">As
                      your moderator, I’d like to propose the following
                      questions and timing, and I welcome your thoughts
                      on this:</span></p>
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Introduction
                      of Panelists – Brief overview of topics – <i>Steve
                        DelBianco</i> </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(figure 10
                      minutes, since we rarely begin on-time)</span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1. What are
                      the most important characteristics we need in an
                      Accredited Access model?  </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
                      allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">2. What is
                      your assessment of </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ICANN Org’s
                      proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> Unified
                        Access Model</a></span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">, and how
                      could that model be improved?     </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
                      allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">3. Talk about
                      your preferred way to implement this model. 
                      Should ICANN Org do another Temp Spec, or let GNSO
                      Council develop one via an expedited PDP, or find
                      a way for Org and GNSO to work together?      </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
                      allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">4. Brief
                      conclusory remarks from each panelist, on key
                      concerns or considerations in implementing an
                      Accredited Access model.  </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(10 minutes –
                      allowing 1 minutes per panelist)</span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Audience
                      questions and answer </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(20 minutes) </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Session
                          2: Accreditation and Access to Non-Public
                          WHOIS Data Post-GDPR (Tuesday June 26, 2018;
                          17:00 – 18:30 local time)</span></u></b><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></b><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                        style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Description</span></b><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">: Under the
                      Temporary Specification passed by the ICANN Board
                      implementing the interim GDPR compliance model,
                      there is a placeholder for an accreditation system
                      to </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">allow<span
                        style="color:black"> uniform access to
                        non-public WHOIS data by appropriate users for
                        legitimate purposes.  Under the Temp</span> Spec<span
                        style="color:black">, contracted parties must
                        provide non-public registration data for
                        legitimate purposes specified in Section 4 of
                        the Temp</span> <span style="color:black">Spec,
                        unless the request for access is outweighed by
                        the domain name registrant’s fundamental right
                        to privacy.  </span>The</span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Article 29
                      Working Party </span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/statement-edpb-whois-27may18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">issued a
                        statement</a><span style="color:black"> </span>--
                      endorsed by the <span style="color:black">European
                        Data Protection Board (EDPB) -- encouraging
                        ICANN to develop an access model. </span></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">T<span
                        style="color:black">here is </span>now <span
                        style="color:black">no uniform system for
                        approving legitimate users </span>for<span
                        style="color:black"> access to non-public
                        registration data </span> for<span
                        style="color:black"> legitimate purposes, </span>so
                      <span style="color:black"> contracted parties </span>must<span
                        style="color:black"> perform ad</span>-<span
                        style="color:black">hoc individual review of
                        each request for data.   </span></span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">Three models have been
                      proposed thus far: </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-whois-accreditation-access-model-v1.6-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> IPC/BC
                        model for Accredited Access (v1.6)</a></span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt">The <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/palage-differentiated-registrant-data-access-model-philly-special-v2.0-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> “Philly
                        Special” model for Differentiated Registrant
                        Data Access</a></span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ICANN Org’s
                      proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> Unified
                        Access Model</a></span><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
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                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                      style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">It is urgent
                      that ICANN </span><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Org,
                      European regulators, <span style="color:black">
                        and the community come together </span>on<span
                        style="color:black"> </span>a <span
                        style="color:black"> workable credentialed
                        access system for non-public WHOIS data for
                        legitimate purposes.  In this cross-community
                        session, panelists will engage with the
                        community to discuss developing a credentialed
                        access system and next steps for </span>implement
                      <span style="color:black">via </span>a <span
                        style="color:black"> Temporary Specification or
                        as part of the expedited policy development
                        process </span> conducted by the GNSO<span
                        style="color:black">.</span></span></p>
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