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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Yes, long term and can
build on best practice IF that practice is formulated
consistent with DP law. I suspect Palage is closer to a good
input document for that process than the others...</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">am sitting on top
floor bar (nice quiet place I must say) but sweltering hot.
Plans to retire here are off...</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers steph</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-06-23 11:54, Rafik Dammak
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Hi Stephanie,
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<div>I think due to limited time for panellists and to make an
impact, it would be better to focus on accreditation model and
what should cover from DP stance not just the focus on purpose
or users.with that you can set the records right on the matter
and can debunk the claims possibly made by other speakers. I
cannot speak about standards part but I assume that will
happen later and you mentioned that is long-term project?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">Le dim. 24 juin 2018 à 01:30, Stephanie
Perrin <<a
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">as usual,
not a moment too soon. Thoughts and suggestions
would be most welcome. I thought I would point to
the IG blog Farzi just did, and point out the
different jobs that standards would do. I think
we need to dissect, for clairty, what we mean by
accreditation, what we mean by standards, and what
aspects of data protection law are factilitated by
a standards based approach. As Farzi's blog
points out (although not in the DP or standards
perspective) the rush to come up with a system and
procedure that perpetuates the status quo is not
helpful in discerning or illuminating what is
necessary for a data controller/processor to give
a third party access.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I will see
if I can hook up with Palage in the meantime. <br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers
Steph</font></font><br>
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<td>Panama high-interest session on Accred &
Access to non-public Whois data (Tuesday June
26, 2018; 17:00 – 18:30 local time)</td>
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<td>Steve DelBianco <a
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href="mailto:sdelbianco@netchoice.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><sdelbianco@netchoice.org></a></td>
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<td>Goran Marby <a
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href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><goran.marby@icann.org></a>,
John Jeffrey <a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><john.jeffrey@icann.org></a>,
Alex Deacon <a
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href="mailto:alex@colevalleyconsulting.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><alex@colevalleyconsulting.com></a>,
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href="mailto:kdrazek@verisign.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><kdrazek@verisign.com></a>,
Stephanie Perrin <a
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href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>,
Rod Rasmussen <a
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rod@rodrasmussen.com></a>,
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href="mailto:Cathrin.BAUER-BULST@ec.europa.eu" target="_blank"
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Fabricio Vayra <a
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Michael Palage <a
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<td>Cyrus Namazi <a
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Brian Winterfeldt <a
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href="mailto:brian@winterfeldt.law"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><brian@winterfeldt.law></a>,
Selli, Claudia <a
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href="mailto:cs574w@intl.att.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><cs574w@intl.att.com></a>,
Manal Ismail <a
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href="mailto:manal@tra.gov.eg"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><manal@tra.gov.eg></a></td>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">Just
a note to confirm you as panelists for Tuesday’s
session in Panama, regarding accreditation and
access to non-Public Whois data. The panel is
described below, and here is the panel lineup:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Goran Marby
and/or John Jeffrey, ICANN. See ICANN Org’s
proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
Unified Access Model</a> , and <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-unified-access-model-summary-elements-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> chart</a>
comparing with IPC/BC and Palage models.</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Alex
Deacon, BC </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Keith
Drazek, RySG </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Stephanie
Perrin, NCSG </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Rod
Rasmussen, SSAC. See SSAC Advisory </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/sac-101-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">here</a><span
style="color:black">. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Cathrin
Bauer-Bulst, European Commission </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">& GAC PSWG<span
style="color:black"> </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Fabricio
Vayra, IPC. See <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-whois-accreditation-access-model-v1.6-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> IPC/BC
model for Accredited Access (v1.6)</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Michael Palage, author
of <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/palage-differentiated-registrant-data-access-model-philly-special-v2.0-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
“Philly Special” model for Differentiated
Registrant Data Access</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">It’s
a large panel, but we need these representative
views to advance a unified model for
accreditation & access. We will not do
opening statements by each panelist, but will
instead give you ample time to answer structured
questions about designing and implementing a
unified model.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">As
your moderator, I’d like to propose the
following questions and timing, and I welcome
your thoughts on this:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Introduction
of Panelists – Brief overview of topics – <i>Steve
DelBianco</i> </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(figure 10
minutes, since we rarely begin on-time)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">1. What are
the most important characteristics we need in an
Accredited Access model? </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">2. What is
your assessment of </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ICANN Org’s
proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
Unified Access Model</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">, and how
could that model be improved? </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">3. Talk
about your preferred way to implement this
model. Should ICANN Org do another Temp Spec,
or let GNSO Council develop one via an expedited
PDP, or find a way for Org and GNSO to work
together? </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(16 minutes,
allowing 2 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">4. Brief
conclusory remarks from each panelist, on key
concerns or considerations in implementing an
Accredited Access model. </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(10 minutes –
allowing 1 minutes per panelist)</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Audience
questions and answer </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:red">(20 minutes) </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.75in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Session
2: Accreditation and Access to Non-Public
WHOIS Data Post-GDPR (Tuesday June 26, 2018;
17:00 – 18:30 local time)</span></u></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Description</span></b><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">: Under the
Temporary Specification passed by the ICANN
Board implementing the interim GDPR compliance
model, there is a placeholder for an
accreditation system to </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">allow<span
style="color:black"> uniform access to
non-public WHOIS data by appropriate users for
legitimate purposes. Under the Temp</span>
Spec<span style="color:black">, contracted
parties must provide non-public registration
data for legitimate purposes specified in
Section 4 of the Temp</span> <span
style="color:black">Spec, unless the request
for access is outweighed by the domain name
registrant’s fundamental right to privacy. </span>The</span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">Article 29
Working Party </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"><a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/statement-edpb-whois-27may18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">issued
a statement</a><span style="color:black"> </span>--
endorsed by the <span style="color:black">European
Data Protection Board (EDPB) -- encouraging
ICANN to develop an access model. </span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt">T<span
style="color:black">here is </span>now <span
style="color:black">no uniform system for
approving legitimate users </span>for<span
style="color:black"> access to non-public
registration data </span> for<span
style="color:black"> legitimate purposes, </span>so
<span style="color:black"> contracted parties </span>must<span
style="color:black"> perform ad</span>-<span
style="color:black">hoc individual review of
each request for data. </span></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Three models have been
proposed thus far: </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">The <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-whois-accreditation-access-model-v1.6-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"> IPC/BC
model for Accredited Access (v1.6)</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">The <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/palage-differentiated-registrant-data-access-model-philly-special-v2.0-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
“Philly Special” model for Differentiated
Registrant Data Access</a></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:.25in"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">ICANN Org’s
proposed <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/framework-elements-unified-access-model-for-discussion-18jun18-en.pdf"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">
Unified Access Model</a></span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt"></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">It is
urgent that ICANN </span><span
style="font-size:12.0pt">Org, European
regulators, <span style="color:black"> and the
community come together </span>on<span
style="color:black"> </span>a <span
style="color:black"> workable credentialed
access system for non-public WHOIS data for
legitimate purposes. In this cross-community
session, panelists will engage with the
community to discuss developing a credentialed
access system and next steps for </span>implement
<span style="color:black">via </span>a <span
style="color:black"> Temporary Specification
or as part of the expedited policy development
process </span> conducted by the GNSO<span
style="color:black">.</span></span></p>
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