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    <p>I think it works well when there is one representative from every
      (major) stakeholder group on the leadership team (co-chairs or
      chair and vice-chairs). That means that every (major) position is
      represented in the main considerations of scheduling, preparation,
      and presentation. This is how RDS works; and this is how RPM
      works. Otherwise, we wind up with situations like the
      Accreditation Groups with IPC as chair/lead, and BC as chair/lead.</p>
    <p>One chair and two vice chairs would ensure that the CPH, and both
      sets of user groups are represented. In the absence of neutrality
      (for there will be little here), balance is key :-)!</p>
    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/20/2018 2:30 AM, Dr. Tatiana
      Tropina wrote:<br>
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      <p>Agree with Rafik, too. I don't see what is the big difference
        between two co-chairs and chair/vice-chair set up (as I assume
        they are interchangeable when one person can't be present at the
        time-consuming meetings for whatever reason and they share the
        workload). I wouldn't favour the council selection - rather
        leave it to the group (or SSC, but I'd prefer the group
        selecting them). However, on the latter issue I'll go with any
        position PC develops - to me membership/size/participation is
        more important because if the group is sizeable and manageable
        and -- as I prefer downsizing it to no more 3 members from SG --
        the leadership issue is less of a problem. These two are
        intertwined, IMHO.<br>
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      <p>Cheers,</p>
      <p>Tanya <br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 20/06/18 06:42, farzaneh badii
        wrote:<br>
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            style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I agree with you. Two
            co-chairs or Chair and vice chair would be good. </div>
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                <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div>
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          <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 7:57 PM Rafik Dammak
            <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
              moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
            wrote:<br>
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                  <div
                    class="m_-419958809599559947m_-4450792714631890705WordSection1"><font
                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Hi,</font></div>
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                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif"><br>
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                  <div
                    class="m_-419958809599559947m_-4450792714631890705WordSection1"><font
                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">as we
                      started the discussion at EPDP DT on different
                      topics, I hope that we can coordinate our
                      positions here.</font></div>
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                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I
                      don't have a strong preference in term of
                      leardership composition but it shouldn't be itself
                      big when we are trying to keep the EPDP team at
                      small size. so 2 co-chair or chair and vice-chair
                      is enough as they have to be from the team itself 
                      and we shouldn't jeoprodize participation. 
                      Selection by the team itself is fine. appointment
                      by council has its own merit but I think that may
                      lead to over-engineered solution and spending time
                      in process (e.g. shall we delegate to SSC?).</font></div>
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                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">I
                      expect that GNSO council leadership should be
                      ex-officio there to keep up to date but not
                      participating in discussion.</font></div>
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                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">please
                      share your thoughts too.</font></div>
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                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Best,</font></div>
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                      size="2" face="arial, helvetica, sans-serif">Rafik</font></div>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">ps we will start soon our own
                      process for appointing members while the work is
                      going on membership requirements in the charter.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"><br>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                            style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">From: </span></b><span
                          style="font-size:12.0pt;color:black">council
                          <<a
                            href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>>
                          on behalf of "McGrady, Paul D." <<a
                            href="mailto:PMcGrady@winston.com"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">PMcGrady@winston.com</a>><br>
                          <b>Date: </b>Tuesday, June 19, 2018 at 16:14<br>
                          <b>To: </b>GNSO Council List <<a
                            href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
                          <b>Subject: </b>[council] ePDP DT /
                          Leadership Issues</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">I think we have at least two
                      questions to address:</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="1" type="1">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"> What is the ideal
                        configuration of the leadership team for an
                        EPDP?  </li>
                    </ol>
                    <ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                        style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:justify"> 1
                        chair</li>
                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                        style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:justify"> 2
                        or more co-chairs</li>
                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                        style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:justify"> 1
                        chair and 1 or more vice-chairs</li>
                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                        style="margin-left:.5in;text-align:justify">
                        Some other model</li>
                    </ul>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"> </p>
                    <ol style="margin-top:0in" start="2" type="1">
                      <li class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"> Depending
                        on the answer to the above, who should be
                        nominated for leadership and what is that
                        process?  Historically, WG’s select their own
                        leadership and that is ratified by the Council. 
                        Is that the same plan for the ePDP?</li>
                    </ol>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Let’s discuss.  </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">PS: From the chat on today’s
                      call I saw (and want to capture for your
                      discussion):</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Ayden Ferdeline: Chair - Thomas
                      Rickert</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Best,</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Paul</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
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