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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I see the need for a
          conflict resolution specialist to be there as a resource for
          the community, not just the leadership team.  Therefore status
          would be similar to external legal counsel.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers steph</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">PS one Boardie is
          enough.  I vote for Becky.</font></font></p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-06-14 04:17, Rafik Dammak
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Hi ,
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        <div>indeed we should flesh out positions here before sharing in
          council list and coordinate our responses. I hope we can do
          tha bettert from now on.</div>
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        <div>I dont think vice-chair can be a role for external
          facilitator or mediator as chairing involve admin work
          (scheduling calls, review notes etc), project management
          tasks, reporting to council and community and so on. a
          facilitator and/or meditaor can be there as support for
          leadership team or chair and intervene for some cases like
          faciliating discussion or resolve conflict. they can be seens
          as resources.</div>
        <div>There is also the idea of legal counsel we should introduce
          more in the discussion. that is important to be agreed in term
          of resourcing.</div>
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        <div>I understand that staff would like to have the minimal
          number in leadership time to ensure quick responses when they
          ask them , however there is always need to have vice-chair or
          co-chair to replace chair if needed or be a backup. we can
          argue that EPDP team is not a long time commitment, in such
          case we will need some mechanisms to ensure backup and handle
          chair absence.<br>
          <br>
          for board, 1 liaison will be enough as board wll organize its
          work via a board caucus and monitor the discussion. we need to
          be careful about the number as we also want to keep
          representation from SO/AC to 1 and so keeping the overall EPDP
          team size small.</div>
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        <div>Best,</div>
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        <div>Rafik</div>
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            <div dir="ltr">Le jeu. 14 juin 2018 à 16:47, Ayden Férdeline
              <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> a
              écrit :<br>
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              <div>Initial thoughts on EPDP leadership:<br>
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              <div>1 chair (from community)<br>
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              <div>1 vice chair (external facilitator / mediator)<br>
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              <div>no more than that<br>
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              <div>leadership not counted as part of the stakeholder
                group appointees (3/SG)<br>
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              <div><br>
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              <div>but I can be persuaded otherwise... happy to hear
                other options.</div>
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                  <div>Best wishes, Ayden <br>
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              <div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
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              <div> On 14 June 2018 4:39 AM, Rafik Dammak <<a
                  href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                  moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div>Hi,<br>
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                  <div>other than the standard language in template in
                    certain sections that is found usually in other
                    charters, we are not supposed to be constrained and
                    the council as drafting team will have to discuss
                    them. <br>
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                  <div>So better as group we get to agree on some
                    points. I think for the composition/membership we
                    have clear position as we discussed that in our
                    calls. for leadership, we need to discuss that
                    further.<br>
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                  <div>for the scope, we need to go through the
                    temporary specification including the annex,
                    identify areas related policy to separate from
                    implementation, and do a triage of what is priorirty
                    for this EPDP from our standpoint. We will see later
                    if there are commonalities with other groups.<br>
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                  <div>We can create a working document we can populate
                    and do that in collaborative manner, not just
                    discussing here. I understand some points about
                    picket fence were made but we have to do our
                    homework to identify the issues .<br>
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                  <div>Best,<br>
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                    <div>Rafik<br>
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                      <div dir="ltr">Le mer. 13 juin 2018 à 08:08, Ayden
                        Férdeline <<a
                          href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
                        a écrit :<br>
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                        <div>For further discussion...<br>
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                        <div>Ayden<br>
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                          <div>---------- Forwarded message ---------- <br>
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                          <div>From: Marika Konings<<a
                              href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>
                            <br>
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                          <div>Date: On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 01:01 <br>
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                          <div>Subject: Fwd: [council] For your review -
                            EPDP Initiation Request and EPDP Team
                            Charter Templates <br>
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                          <div>To: <a
                              href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">council@gnso.icann.org</a>
                            <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">council@gnso.icann.org</a>>
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                          <div>Cc: <br>
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                                style="font-size:11pt">Dear All,</span><br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                                style="font-size:11pt">As discussed
                                during today’s extraordinary Council
                                meeting, staff has gone ahead and
                                prepared a template for the EPDP
                                Initiation Request as well as the EPDP
                                Team Charter (see attached). As there is
                                some duplication between the Initiation
                                Request and the Charter, staff would
                                like to suggest that you focus your
                                attention on the EPDP Team charter for
                                now. Once elements such as scope and
                                team composition have been agreed on,
                                these can then be lifted from the
                                charter into the EPDP Initiation
                                Request. Also note that staff has taken
                                the liberty to prepopulate some of the
                                sections of the charter to facilitate
                                your deliberations. These entries are
                                either based on existing charter
                                language / practices / procedures and/or
                                aspects that have come up in the context
                                of the discussions to date, including
                                the PDP 3.0 conversations. In addition,
                                staff has flagged some items highlighted
                                in yellow that will require further
                                feedback before draft language can be
                                added. Of course, it is up to you to
                                edit / delete / add as you deem
                                appropriate. If there is anything
                                further that staff can do to facilitate
                                your deliberations and drafting, please
                                let me know.</span><br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                                style="font-size:11pt">Best regards,</span><br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                                style="font-size:11pt">Marika  </span><br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
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                                    style="font-size:11pt">Marika
                                    Konings</span></i></b><br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
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                                  style="font-size:11pt">Vice President,
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                                  Internet Corporation for Assigned
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