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    <p>landing my support, too. <br>
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    <p>Tanya <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29/05/18 16:14, Stephanie Perrin
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                <div><b>From: </b>Kathy Kleiman</div>
                <div><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, May 29, 2018 05:58</div>
                <div><b>To: </b><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a></div>
                <div><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NCSG-PC] New letter to Board
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        <p>It's a good letter and (and as an observer) I support its
          rapid transmission to the Board.</p>
        <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 5/29/2018 5:36 AM, Ayden
          Férdeline wrote:<br>
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          <div>Thanks, Rafik. This is on the Board's agenda for their <a
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              meeting tomorrow</a>, so, if there is support for
            submitting it, I hope we will be able to circulate the
            comment with enough time for members of the Board to be able
            to reviews its contents.
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              <div>Ayden <br>
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          <div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
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          <div>On 29 May 2018 10:19 AM, Rafik Dammak <a
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              <rafik.dammak@gmail.com></a> wrote:<br>
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              <div>Hi all,<br>
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              <div>we have till today 23:59UTC. If you have any
                objection or comment, if there is none, the letter will
                be sent.<br>
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              <div>Best,<br>
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                <div>Rafik<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Le lun. 28 mai 2018 à 18:18, Rafik
                      Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
                      a écrit :<br>
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                        <div>Thanks, Ayden, asking everyone to do the
                          review quickly.<br>
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                        <div>I also think the letter should be shared in
                          NCSG list for info.<br>
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                        <div>Best,<br>
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                          <div>Rafik<br>
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                            <div dir="ltr">Le dim. 27 mai 2018 à 23:43,
                              Ayden Férdeline <<a
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                              <div>Thanks Rafik, good point. I pretty
                                much copied and pasted your text into
                                the letter:<br>
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                              <div><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fZfD2qc_ksPpSDOZ_oVnf54lWl8pi8TPb6SGPDw27YM/edit?usp=sharing"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fZfD2qc_ksPpSDOZ_oVnf54lWl8pi8TPb6SGPDw27YM/edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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                              <div>Sorry not to get this prepared
                                sooner, but can everyone please review
                                it and suggest edits? The Board is set
                                to review the Budget on 30 May so would
                                be great to get this out tomorrow - or
                                Tuesday at the very latest - if there is
                                PC support. Thanks very much!<br>
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                              <div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
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                              <div>On 25 May 2018 1:10 AM, Rafik Dammak
                                <<a
                                  href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
                                wrote:<br>
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                                        <div>Hi Ayden,<br>
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                                        <div>I think we point that
                                          without fixing that issue we
                                          will face the same problems in
                                          next years and there is no so
                                          much left to cut from whatever
                                          support directed to the
                                          community. the issue is not
                                          just the new fiscal year
                                          budget but a whole structural
                                          change in ICANN for the coming
                                          years with regard to human
                                          resources e.g. resizing
                                          gradually. redeployment is one
                                          suggestion as we can
                                          reallocate staff to the areas
                                          of high priority like policy.<br>
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                                        <div>Best,<br>
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                                        <div>Rafik<br>
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                                    <div dir="ltr">Le ven. 25 mai 2018
                                      à 01:25, Ayden Férdeline <<a
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                                      <div>Thanks all for the comments.
                                        I'll work on a new letter on
                                        this topic tonight, and we'll
                                        need to review this quickly, as
                                        it is on the Board agenda for 30
                                        May.
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                                      <div>The HR point is difficult
                                        because I do take Xavier's
                                        response that the growth there
                                        is because the community
                                        directed the organisation to
                                        undertake certain activities.
                                        Sure, we never said hire staff
                                        to undertake these activities,
                                        but I guess it was implied. And
                                        salaries rising 2% (broadly in
                                        line with inflation) is not
                                        unreasonable. Will need to think
                                        about how we address this, i.e.
                                        re-deploy staff vertically?<br>
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                                      <div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message
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                                      <div>On 24 May 2018 8:26 AM, Rafik
                                        Dammak <<a
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                                          <div>thanks, Ayden for the
                                            summary.<br>
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                                          <div>I think with regard to
                                            the letter to board we
                                            should focus on important
                                            and big issues on the budget
                                            as the cuts are not
                                            addressing the structural
                                            and systemic issues i.e. big
                                            part of the budget is for
                                            human resources. I think we
                                            can make a better argument
                                            by highlighting that
                                            instead.<br>
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                                          <div>the budget approval is
                                            scheduled for next week.<br>
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                                          <div>Best,<br>
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                                            <div>Rafik<br>
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                                              <div dir="ltr">Le mer. 23
                                                mai 2018 à 05:14, Ayden
                                                Férdeline <<a
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                                                <div>Is there any point
                                                  in writing a new
                                                  letter, this time to
                                                  the Board before it
                                                  adopts the new Budget,
                                                  asking that they
                                                  kindly consider
                                                  reinstating CROP to
                                                  100% of its original
                                                  size (cost
                                                  implications - extra
                                                  $50,000), increase ABR
                                                  envelope modestly to
                                                  include support for
                                                  the IGF as has been
                                                  the case in the past
                                                  (conditional on
                                                  workshop acceptance;
                                                  we do use this
                                                  resource very well,
                                                  and it can't cost more
                                                  than $10,000 for the
                                                  entire GNSO), and
                                                  expand the Council
                                                  Strategic Planning
                                                  Session from 2 days to
                                                  3 days (cost
                                                  implication, I'd guess
                                                  max $5,000 for 1 extra
                                                  night hotel + per diem
                                                  for 21 people) in
                                                  recognition of the
                                                  fact that the
                                                  Intersessional has
                                                  been discontinued so
                                                  the agenda will be
                                                  more packed than
                                                  usual?<br>
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                                                <div>Ayden<br>
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