<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Dorothy,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the message and comment. Thanks again for the draft. your comments are always welcomed and respect, nobody should feel unheard or ignored, and if it is the case, it should be remedied. </div><div class="gmail_extra">As I see concerns, I am holding off sending the comment for now (we got an extension to this Friday). I don't agree with the last conclusion but that is not the matter here anyway.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">With regard to the comment and to put context for everyone, there was a discussion in google doc about changes as some were rejected. I understand the argument that we should have a short comment. In the end, the issue is not about substance itself as there is no disagreement in the content. I interpreted this as a question of styles and "tastes" regarding how a comment should be shaped and since there is not really a single right answer. From my personal point of view, it was not a big deal.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">however, my concern is we got things too personally and maybe with pride. When we have a draft, there is an expectation that can be changed and modified when reviewed by the group. We work by consensus and usually, penholders try to resolve comments and accommodate inputs from others as much as possible so we can share the ownership of the document. My question for some comments or actions, are they really something you want to fight hard for or not? if the response is no, we can live with the proposed change and move on. I suggested that we keep comments and suggestions open for a while so others can weigh in. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>I take the responsibility and blame that I failed to find a common ground here between the 2 sides of concern expressed in the google doc comment and failed to act in time to finalize the comment. I am putting the versions of comments so people can have a better idea about the difference and people select which version (version 1 or version 2) we should send, we have 24 hours to do so. </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafi<b>k</b></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-04-19 5:25 GMT+09:00 dorothy g <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:dgdorothydg@gmail.com" target="_blank">dgdorothydg@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Rafiq, I believe we have now included language which is standard to any due diligence process and described a process already made explicit in the background documentation relating to the uniform screening process. Repeating it makes it look like we did not read the background documents and/or we are not familiar with how these processes work. In my view this is unfortunate. I deliberately did not revert within the time period you gave because I am an observer on this group and I appreciate your workload issues. Needless to say please do not associate me in anyway with that comment. I now understand better how the dynamic of these comments work and why so few people volunteer.<div>best regards</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 6:16 PM, Renata Aquino Ribeiro <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:raquino@gmail.com" target="_blank">raquino@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">[observer here]<div><br></div><div>Hi</div><div><br></div><div>Fully aware of being an observer of this group, I will reiterate what I said on NCSG list</div><div>The NCAP was a real challenge and I don't think I did well on it, would not submit as it was </div><div>I will continue to try and collaborate with other comments and possible find more feasible ones to collaborate</div><div><br></div><div>Since I submitted it though, it had contributions which I'm grateful for so it is up to the PC NCSG where to take it</div><div><br></div><div>I'm also aware that nothing what I had proposed is in the shortened version but then again wouldn't expect that as the power is with the PC to decide what to carry on to the final comment or not.</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Renata</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="m_8288723378703223479HOEnZb"><div class="m_8288723378703223479h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 2:40 AM, Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks all, I think the comment for uniform screening process is ready and if there is no strong objection within the next 12 hours I will submit it. I attached the latest version.</div><div class="gmail_extra">continuing to work on NCAP comment</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><span>2018-04-17 19:58 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca</a>></span>:<br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I commented on two. I
cannot seem to get back into the integrity screening one....I
think our preamble, if it mentions the prescursor to the NCUC,
should name it. Here is the name </font></font>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">NCDNHC<span> </span>Non-Commercial
Domain Name Holders Constituency <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">I added it to the
reserve fund comment but not the other</p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:normal">cheers steph<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks all, I will try to resolve the
comments and taking into account the suggestion to shorten the
NCAP comment<br>
those who didn't review yet, please do asap.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote"><span>2018-04-17 1:49 GMT+09:00 Farell
FOLLY <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farell@benin2point0.org" target="_blank">farell@benin2point0.org</a>></span>:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><span>I
have reviewed the NCAP comment and I am more or less
aligned with the idea that it can be brief since there
is nothing substantial we are pointing out.
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issue about Intellectual Property, but I am not
getting the right point. I suggested to point out a
use case to explain and we can see whether the issue
is already covered in the proposed project plan or
not. I can see that most of the points we’re raising
in our draft are already taken into account. At the
end, I made some inputs to format the document, if we
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<div>On 14 Apr 2018, at 03:44,
Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@GMAIL.COM</a>>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Hi
all,</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_quote">we
have several draft comments
in pipeline and they need PC
review. some may need some
rework.</div>
</span><div class="gmail_quote"><br>
<ul>
<li><span class="m_8288723378703223479m_7873274108992933445m_-2747471677457925216m_7931628040862035329TSRSpan" id="m_8288723378703223479m_7873274108992933445m_-2747471677457925216m_7931628040862035329TSRSpan_23"><img class="m_8288723378703223479m_7873274108992933445m_-2747471677457925216m_7931628040862035329TSRWebRatingIcon" style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0px"></span><span class="m_8288723378703223479m_7873274108992933445m_-2747471677457925216TSRSpan" id="m_8288723378703223479m_7873274108992933445m_-2747471677457925216TSRSpan_97"><img class="m_8288723378703223479m_7873274108992933445m_-2747471677457925216TSRWebRatingIcon" style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0px"></span><span class="TSRSpan" id="TSRSpan_28"><img class="TSRWebRatingIcon" src="chrome-extension://cfeleongjhdjephegmmmdjgbfjiindbe/./images/webicon_green.png" style="width: 16px; height: 16px; border: 0px;"></span><a class="m_8288723378703223479m_7873274108992933445m_-2747471677457925216m_7931628040862035329m_7138092764261320210external-link" href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/ncap-project-plan-2018-03-02-en" rel="nofollow" style="color:rgb(59,115,175);font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:rgb(184,234,184)" target="_blank"><font face="Arial,
sans-serif" color="#3b73af"><u>Draft
Project Plan for
the Proposed Name
Collision Analysis
Project</u></font> </a> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26QUFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.c<wbr>om/document/d/1jwK6ik8VgMjM26Q<wbr>UFcSmA0y9hBASmxMAGupnvvDSe2A/e<wbr>dit?usp=sharing</a> ,
the dealdine is the 18th
April<br>
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Board Member Integrity
Screening Process</a> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.co<wbr>m/document/d/1YS4ZCtcD_dOlP6va<wbr>1aInp0XuS4l7tunhQBgdFzMhuqo/ed<wbr>it</a>
, the deadline is the
17th April<br>
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Reserve Fund: Proposed
Replenishment Strategy</a> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.c<wbr>om/document/d/1cfjgDFI7KTPmxS9<wbr>_KLkIDHvtmoyRvNR6vlLsK-_l-2U/e<wbr>dit</a>
deadline is the 25th
April<br>
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<div>I expect that all PC
members to review and help
finalizing the comments
with due diligeance.
thanks to those who did
already.</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Rafik</div>
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