<div>Thanks for articulating this; you both raise very good points. Agreed - let's only send this in to ICANN. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On 6 April 2018 1:21 AM, farzaneh badii <farzaneh.badii@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Rafik<br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Very good point. We should not submit to the email address they provided. We can send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR public comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the only reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the rest of the community know what we think about it.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif" class="font">Farzaneh</span><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi all,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">while still reviewing the draft as there were several changes lately, with regard to whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address. no problem here.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">but I would like that make clear that by sending this letter or de facto input to BC/IPC, are we stating implicitly or not that we will participate in their ad hoc process regarding the accreditation model from now on? this is something we have to be clear about when communicating with them,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div>Rafik<br></div><div> <br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="h5"><p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="size"><span style="font-family:Lucida Grande" class="font">The whole process is
flawed, I think we should send it to the GDPR address so that
it is put on the web under community feedback on models. <span class="m_-2017854606945173291HOEnZb"><span style="color:#888888" class="colour"></span></span></span></span><br></p><span class="m_-2017854606945173291HOEnZb"><span style="color:#888888" class="colour"><p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="size"><span style="font-family:Lucida Grande" class="font">Stephanie</span></span><br></p></span></span></div></div><div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291h5"><div><div class="h5"><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman
wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><p>It seems a little funny to send me to send a copy directly to
winterfeldt law -- how about just the first email address? <br></p><p>Also, perhaps we should publish our comment... <br></p><p>Best, Kathy<br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On 4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden Férdeline
wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>They have asked that comments be sent to:<br></div><div><br></div><p><span style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)" class="highlight"><span style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)" class="colour"><span style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif" class="font"><span style="font-size:16px" class="size">stakeholders can provide written comments
on the accreditation model proposal to<span> </span><a href="mailto:3amcomments@gmail.com" style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(187,187,187)" target="_blank">3amcomments@gmail.com</a>,
with a copy to<span> </span><a href="mailto:internet@winterfeldt.law" style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px solid rgb(187,187,187)" target="_blank">internet@winterfeldt.law</a>.</span></span></span></span><br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>I hope all comments will be publicly published. Feels a
little odd simply sending this to a Gmail account.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-proton m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div>On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy Kleiman <a class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank"><kathy@kathykleiman.com></a> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><p>Hi Ayden, Good question. I think we should send it to
Cherine and Goran and copy the email address in which Brian
Winterfeldt and his law firm asked for "comments.' <br></p><p><i>I can't seem to find that email address right now --
would you happen to have it?</i><br></p><p>All on the PC, I'm downloading the document shortly for
final check of the citations and formatting. Google doc does
not make indented citations easy :-). No more edits,
please. I'll have this over to Rafik and Farzi shortly.<br></p><p>Best, Kathy<br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On 4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden
Férdeline wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>I understand from the notifications from Google that
changes are being accepted, that work is still underway
editing this document and getting it into a submittable
state. So I suppose now is the time to ask, who are we
sending this letter to? BC Chair and IPC President, with
Goran and Cherine in cc?<br></div><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>-- Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-proton m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div>On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM, Kathy Kleiman <a class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" target="_blank"><kathy@kathykleiman.com></a> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><p>Hi All, <br></p><p>Tx to Ayden for his excellent edits, now incorporated
(with a few comments highlighting proposed rephrasing,
Ayden). Tx also to Martin for his review!<br></p><p>Back to the PC to continue review...<br></p><p>Best, Kathy<br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On 4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin
Pablo Silva Valent wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>I am reading it now, but between Kathy and Ayden’s
work, it looks good to go. I’ll add my comments if
any. So far, my full support. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div></div></div><div><div>Martín<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On 3 Apr 2018, at 20:38, Ayden
Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have reviewed the document now
and put forward some suggested edits. Some are
substantive changes but all are in the same
spirit of the original text. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The formatting looks a bit odd; I
hope the text alignments can be corrected
prior to submission. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the conclusion lacks
punch; but can’t think of what it is missing
at the moment...<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden<br></div><div><br></div><div>P.S. Thanks to those who drafted
it <br></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 01:24, Rafik
Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div></div></div></div><blockquote class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div>Hi Farzaneh,<br></div><div><br></div><div>thanks for this.<br></div><div>I would like to ask PC
members to review it asap. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div>2018-04-04 6:57 GMT+09:00
farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>: <br></div><div><br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="auto">Hi all <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Im on a
plane so let me know if the link
below is correct. Kathy has
written a response on ipc bc <br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G<wbr>84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We need
to go through it asap and send
it before their meeting. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please
comment quickly and make sure
you are on suggestion mode (i
set it that way not sure it went
through) <br></div></div><span class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816HOEnZb"><span style="color:rgb(136, 136, 136)" class="colour"><div>-- <br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816m_740783456350225684gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif" class="font">Farzaneh</span><br></div></div></div></span></span><div><br></div><div>______________________________<wbr>_________________ <br></div><div>NCSG-PC mailing list <br></div><div><a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a> <br></div></div></div><div><span class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan" id="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan_91"><img class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRWebRatingIcon" style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0px"></span><a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" rel="noreferrer" style="background-color:rgb(189,189,189)" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a> <br></div><div><br></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><span class=""><div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div>NCSG-PC mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div></span><div><span class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan" id="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan_92"><img class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRWebRatingIcon" style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0px"></span><a class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" style="background-color:rgb(189,189,189)" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br></div></div></blockquote></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><pre><span class="">______________________________<wbr>_________________
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