<div>I don't think we are able to get the comment submitted before that call though, can we?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Don't we need to now share the proposed text on the NCSG list for 24 hours? <br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div> On 6 April 2018 1:42 AM, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="protonmail_quote" type="cite"><p>There is one reason to BC the IPC at their gmail address below,
and expanding on Rafik's idea below. That is because, legitimate
or not, many of us are attending the IPC/BC's meeting tomorrow and
frankly, I would like for them to see the NCSG Comment and know it
is there. I double they'll be checking the GDPR email.<br></p><p>It would be useful if we want to reference in comments we may
make during the meeting tomorrow...<br></p><p>Best, Kathy<br></p><p>p.s. does anyone have the GDPR comment email? <br></p><div><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/5/2018 7:21 PM, farzaneh badii
wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Rafik<br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default"><br></div><div style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif" class="gmail_default">Very good point. We
should not submit to the email address they provided. We can
send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR public
comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment
analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the
only reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the
rest of the community know what we think about it.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh</span><br></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik
Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi all,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">while still reviewing the draft
as there were several changes lately, with regard to
whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive
options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and
Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address. no
problem here.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">but I would like that make clear
that by sending this letter or de facto input to BC/IPC,
are we stating implicitly or not that we will
participate in their ad hoc process regarding the
accreditation model from now on? this is something we
have to be clear about when communicating with them,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div>Rafik<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie
Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>></span>:<br></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0
.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex" class="gmail_quote"><div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><div class="h5"><p><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span class="font" style="font-family:Lucida Grande">The
whole process is flawed, I think we
should send it to the GDPR address so
that it is put on the web under
community feedback on models. <span class="m_-2017854606945173291HOEnZb"><span class="colour" style="color:#888888"></span></span></span></span><br></p><span class="m_-2017854606945173291HOEnZb"><span class="colour" style="color:#888888"><p><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span class="font" style="font-family:Lucida
Grande">Stephanie</span></span><br></p></span></span></div></div><div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291h5"><div><div class="h5"><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On
2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><p>It seems a little funny to send me to
send a copy directly to winterfeldt
law -- how about just the first email
address? <br></p><p>Also, perhaps we should publish our
comment... <br></p><p>Best, Kathy<br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On
4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden Férdeline
wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>They have asked that comments be
sent to:<br></div><div><br></div><p><span class="highlight" style="background-color:rgb(255, 255, 255)"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 0, 0)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:16px">stakeholders
can provide written comments
on the accreditation model
proposal to<span> </span><a target="_blank" style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px
solid rgb(187,187,187)" href="mailto:3amcomments@gmail.com">3amcomments@gmail.com</a>,
with a copy to<span> </span><a target="_blank" style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px
solid rgb(187,187,187)" href="mailto:internet@winterfeldt.law">internet@winterfeldt.law</a>.</span></span></span></span><br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>I hope all comments will be
publicly published. Feels a
little odd simply sending this
to a Gmail account.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-proton
m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div>On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy
Kleiman <a target="_blank" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><kathy@kathykleiman.com></a> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><blockquote class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><p>Hi Ayden, Good question. I think
we should send it to Cherine and
Goran and copy the email address
in which Brian Winterfeldt and his
law firm asked for "comments.' <br></p><p><i>I can't seem to find that
email address right now -- would
you happen to have it?</i><br></p><p>All on the PC, I'm downloading
the document shortly for final
check of the citations and
formatting. Google doc does not
make indented citations easy :-).
No more edits, please. I'll have
this over to Rafik and Farzi
shortly.<br></p><p>Best, Kathy<br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On
4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden Férdeline
wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>I understand from the
notifications from Google that
changes are being accepted, that
work is still underway editing
this document and getting it
into a submittable state. So I
suppose now is the time to ask,
who are we sending this letter
to? BC Chair and IPC President,
with Goran and Cherine in cc?<br></div><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>-- Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-proton
m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message
‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div>On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM,
Kathy Kleiman <a target="_blank" href="mailto:kathy@kathykleiman.com" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"><kathy@kathykleiman.com></a> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><blockquote class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><p>Hi All, <br></p><p>Tx to Ayden for his excellent
edits, now incorporated (with
a few comments highlighting
proposed rephrasing, Ayden).
Tx also to Martin for his
review!<br></p><p>Back to the PC to continue
review...<br></p><p>Best, Kathy<br></p><div><br></div><div class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-cite-prefix">On
4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo
Silva Valent wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>I am reading it now, but
between Kathy and Ayden’s
work, it looks good to go.
I’ll add my comments if any.
So far, my full support. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,<br></div></div></div><div><div>Martín<br></div><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5"><div>On 3 Apr 2018, at
20:38, Ayden Férdeline
<<a target="_blank" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div>Hi,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have reviewed
the document now and
put forward some
suggested edits.
Some are substantive
changes but all are
in the same spirit
of the original
text. <br></div><div><br></div><div>The formatting
looks a bit odd; I
hope the text
alignments can be
corrected prior to
submission. <br></div><div><br></div><div>I think the
conclusion lacks
punch; but can’t
think of what it is
missing at the
moment...<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best wishes,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden<br></div><div><br></div><div>P.S. Thanks to
those who drafted
it <br></div></div></div><div><div><div class="h5"><div><br></div><div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, Apr
4, 2018 at
01:24, Rafik
Dammak <<a target="_blank" href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br></div></div></div></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816gmail_signature"><div>Hi
Farzaneh,<br></div><div><br></div><div>thanks
for this.<br></div><div>I would
like to ask PC
members to
review it
asap. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br></div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br></div></div></div><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div>2018-04-04
6:57 GMT+09:00
farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a target="_blank" href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>: <br></div><div><br></div></div></div><blockquote style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5"><div dir="auto">Hi
all <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Im
on a plane so
let me know if
the link below
is correct.
Kathy has
written a
response on
ipc bc <br></div><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><a target="_blank" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G<wbr>84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA</a><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">We
need to go
through it
asap and send
it before
their
meeting. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Please
comment
quickly and
make sure you
are on
suggestion
mode (i set it
that way not
sure it went
through) <br></div></div><span class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816HOEnZb"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(136, 136, 136)"><div>-- <br></div><div><br></div><div data-smartmail="gmail_signature" class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816m_740783456350225684gmail_signature" dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><span class="font" style="font-family:verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh</span><br></div></div></div></span></span><div><br></div><div>______________________________<wbr>_________________ <br></div><div>NCSG-PC
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