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    <p>There is one reason to BC the IPC at their gmail address below,
      and expanding on Rafik's idea below. That is because, legitimate
      or not, many of us are attending the IPC/BC's meeting tomorrow and
      frankly, I would like for them to see the NCSG Comment and know it
      is there. I double they'll be checking the GDPR email.</p>
    <p>It would be useful if we want to reference in comments we may
      make during the meeting tomorrow...</p>
    <p>Best, Kathy</p>
    <p>p.s. does anyone have the GDPR comment email? <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/5/2018 7:21 PM, farzaneh badii
      wrote:<br>
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          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Very good point. We
          should not submit to the email address they provided. We can
          send it as a correspondence to the CEO, and use GDPR public
          comment address. IPC/BC cannot come up with their own comment
          analysis and their process. We have to make it clear that the
          only reason we are making the comment is for ICANN and the
          rest of the community know what we think about it.</div>
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              <div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 4:09 PM, Rafik
          Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a
              href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank"
              moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
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              <div class="gmail_extra">Hi all,</div>
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              <div class="gmail_extra">while still reviewing the draft
                as there were several changes lately, with regard to
                whom to send I don't think there are mutually exclusive
                options here. it can be sent to BCC and IPC, Goran and
                Cherine, to the ICANN GDPR dedicated mail address.  no
                problem here.</div>
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              <div class="gmail_extra">but I would like that make clear
                that by sending this letter or de facto input to BC/IPC,
                are we stating implicitly or not that we will
                participate in their ad hoc process regarding the
                accreditation model from now on? this is something we
                have to be clear about when communicating with them,</div>
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              <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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              <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
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                    <div class="h5">2018-04-06 8:03 GMT+09:00 Stephanie
                      Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>></span>:<br>
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                          <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">The
                                whole process is flawed, I think we
                                should send it to the GDPR address so
                                that it is put on the web under
                                community feedback on models.  <br>
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                              <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida
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                                2018-04-05 18:36, Kathy Kleiman wrote:<br>
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                                <p>It seems a little funny to send me to
                                  send a copy directly to winterfeldt
                                  law -- how about just the first email
                                  address? <br>
                                </p>
                                <p>Also, perhaps we should publish our
                                  comment... <br>
                                </p>
                                <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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                                  4/5/2018 6:30 PM, Ayden Férdeline
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                  <div>They have asked that comments be
                                    sent to:<br>
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                                  <p><span
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                                            class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816size">stakeholders
                                            can provide written comments
                                            on the accreditation model
                                            proposal to<span> </span><a
href="mailto:3amcomments@gmail.com"
style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px
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                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">3amcomments@gmail.com</a>,
                                            with a copy to<span> </span><a
href="mailto:internet@winterfeldt.law"
style="outline:none;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);border-bottom:1px
                                              solid rgb(187,187,187)"
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                                              moz-do-not-send="true">internet@winterfeldt.law</a>.</span></span></span></span><br>
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                                      <div>I hope all comments will be
                                        publicly published. Feels a
                                        little odd simply sending this
                                        to a Gmail account.<br>
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                                      <div>Ayden  <br>
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                                  <div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
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                                  <div> On 6 April 2018 12:27 AM, Kathy
                                    Kleiman <a
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                                    wrote:<br>
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                                    <p>Hi Ayden, Good question. I think
                                      we should send it to Cherine and
                                      Goran and copy the email address
                                      in which Brian Winterfeldt and his
                                      law firm asked for "comments.'  <br>
                                    </p>
                                    <p><i>I can't seem to find that
                                        email address right now -- would
                                        you happen to have it?</i><br>
                                    </p>
                                    <p>All on the PC, I'm downloading
                                      the document shortly for final
                                      check of the citations and
                                      formatting. Google doc does not
                                      make indented citations easy :-). 
                                      No more edits, please.  I'll have
                                      this over to Rafik and Farzi
                                      shortly.<br>
                                    </p>
                                    <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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                                      4/5/2018 6:17 PM, Ayden Férdeline
                                      wrote:<br>
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                                      <div>I understand from the
                                        notifications from Google that
                                        changes are being accepted, that
                                        work is still underway editing
                                        this document and getting it
                                        into a submittable state. So I
                                        suppose now is the time to ask,
                                        who are we sending this letter
                                        to? BC Chair and IPC President,
                                        with Goran and Cherine in cc?<br>
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                                          <div>-- Ayden  <br>
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                                      <div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message
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                                      <div>On 4 April 2018 4:09 AM,
                                        Kathy Kleiman <a
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                                        wrote:<br>
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                                        <p>Hi All, <br>
                                        </p>
                                        <p>Tx to Ayden for his excellent
                                          edits, now incorporated (with
                                          a few comments highlighting
                                          proposed rephrasing, Ayden).
                                          Tx also to Martin for his
                                          review!<br>
                                        </p>
                                        <p>Back to the PC to continue
                                          review...<br>
                                        </p>
                                        <p>Best, Kathy<br>
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                                          4/3/2018 7:40 PM, Martin Pablo
                                          Silva Valent wrote:<br>
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                                          <div>I am reading it now, but
                                            between Kathy and Ayden’s
                                            work, it looks good to go.
                                            I’ll add my comments if any.
                                            So far, my full support. <br>
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                                          <div>Cheers,<br>
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                                        <div>Martín<br>
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                                                <div>On 3 Apr 2018, at
                                                  20:38, Ayden Férdeline
                                                  <<a
                                                    href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
                                                  wrote:<br>
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                                                  <div>Hi,<br>
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                                                  <div>I have reviewed
                                                    the document now and
                                                    put forward some
                                                    suggested edits.
                                                    Some are substantive
                                                    changes but all are
                                                    in the same spirit
                                                    of the original
                                                    text.  <br>
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                                                  <div>The formatting
                                                    looks a bit odd; I
                                                    hope the text
                                                    alignments can be
                                                    corrected prior to
                                                    submission. <br>
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                                                  <div>I think the
                                                    conclusion lacks
                                                    punch; but can’t
                                                    think of what it is
                                                    missing at the
                                                    moment...<br>
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                                                  <div>Best wishes,<br>
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                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  <div>Ayden<br>
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                                                  <div>P.S. Thanks to
                                                    those who drafted
                                                    it <br>
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                                                      <div>On Wed, Apr
                                                        4, 2018 at
                                                        01:24, Rafik
                                                        Dammak <<a
                                                          href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
                                                        wrote:<br>
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                                                          <div>Hi
                                                          Farzaneh,<br>
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                                                          <div>thanks
                                                          for this.<br>
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                                                          <div>I would
                                                          like to ask PC
                                                          members to
                                                          review it
                                                          asap. <br>
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                                                          <div>Best,<br>
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                                                          <div>Rafik<br>
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                                                          <div>2018-04-04
                                                          6:57 GMT+09:00
                                                          farzaneh badii
                                                          <span
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href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank"
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>:
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                                                          all <br>
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                                                          on a plane so
                                                          let me know if
                                                          the link below
                                                          is correct.
                                                          Kathy has
                                                          written a
                                                          response on
                                                          ipc bc <br>
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                                                          <div><a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/16miuxuAYYgwUQHPde8N02W6G<wbr>84oibuV9m4W3ZTeI_SA</a><br>
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                                                          need to go
                                                          through it
                                                          asap and send
                                                          it before
                                                          their
                                                          meeting. <br>
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                                                          <div
                                                          dir="auto">Please
                                                          comment
                                                          quickly and
                                                          make sure you
                                                          are on
                                                          suggestion
                                                          mode (i set it
                                                          that way not
                                                          sure it went
                                                          through) <br>
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style="color:rgb(136,136,136)"
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class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816m_740783456350225684gmail_signature"
data-smartmail="gmail_signature">
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                                                          <div><span
                                                          style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"
class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816font">Farzaneh</span><br>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>______________________________<wbr>_________________
                                                          <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div>NCSG-PC
                                                          mailing list <br>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><a
                                                          href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a> <br>
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                                                          </div>
                                                          </div>
                                                          <div><span
                                                          class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan"
id="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan_91"><img
                                                          class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRWebRatingIcon"
style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0px" moz-do-not-send="true"></span><a
href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" rel="noreferrer"
                                                          style="background-color:rgb(189,189,189)"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a>
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                                              <span class="">
                                                <div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>NCSG-PC mailing
                                                  list<br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div><a
                                                    href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is"
                                                    target="_blank"
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br>
                                                </div>
                                              </span>
                                              <div><span
                                                  class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan"
id="m_-2017854606945173291TSRSpan_92"><img
                                                    class="m_-2017854606945173291TSRWebRatingIcon"
style="width:16px;height:16px;border:0px" moz-do-not-send="true"></span><a
class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-freetext"
                                                  href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc"
style="background-color:rgb(189,189,189)" target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br>
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                                        </div>
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                                        </div>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <div><br>
                                      </div>
                                      <pre><span class="">______________________________<wbr>_________________
NCSG-PC mailing list
<a class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a>
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                              <pre class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-quote-pre">______________________________<wbr>_________________
NCSG-PC mailing list
<a class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a>
<a class="m_-2017854606945173291m_49363184895391816moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a>
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                    </div>
                    <span class="">
                      <br>
                      ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
                      NCSG-PC mailing list<br>
                      <a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br>
                      <a
                        href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc"
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br>
                      <br>
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                <br>
              </div>
            </div>
            <br>
            ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
            NCSG-PC mailing list<br>
            <a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is"
              moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br>
            <a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br>
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      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
NCSG-PC mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc</a>
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