<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Stephanie,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Maybe we should know better about the cureent status and progress of the review team?did it work on term of references and scoping yet or not?</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Rafik <br><br><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 7:02 AM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">fair points.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Any ideas on how to
proceed?</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">SP<br>
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<div class="m_-9031263446040014060moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-03-22 17:22, Rafik Dammak
wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi ,
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<div dir="auto">I would be more cautious here, contracted
trying to be too tactical but there may be unintended
consequences. We heard Goran many times last talking about
proposing changes to reviews but we have no idea about
specifics. Pausing may just lead somehow to less serious and
small in scope reviews in future with whatever ICANN wants
to propose.</div>
<div dir="auto">Pausing without clear conditions for restart
will be another SSR2 drama and playing into narrative that
community cannot manage those processes. </div>
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<div dir="auto">Best,</div>
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<div dir="auto">Rafik </div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 6:10 AM Stephanie
Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>
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<p>Interesting. DO we have a view on this folks? I
would not object to putting the RDS review on hold.
Far too much to keep track of, notably GDPR and the
Privacy proxy services IRT.</p>
<p>Steph<br>
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<td>Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs]
ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in
RDS/WHOIS2</td>
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<td>Anthony Harris <a class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:harris@cabase.org.ar" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><harris@cabase.org.ar></a></td>
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<td>'PAMELA LITTLE' <a class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank"><pam.little@alibaba-inc.com></a>,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
council [<a class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>En nombre de </b>PAMELA LITTLE<br>
<b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 21 de marzo de
2018 0:55<br>
<b>Para:</b> Heather Forrest; GNSO Council List;
Austin, Donna<br>
<b>Asunto:</b> Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd:
[soac-chairs] ccNSO Council resolves not to
participate in RDS/WHOIS2</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">In
addition to bandwidth issue<i> </i>and in
light of<i> </i>the discussions around ICANN
budget and GDPR at ICANN61, perhaps the
community should consider a deferral/pause
of this review. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Also, see
below excerpt of Goran's latest blog </span><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61</a>:</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"...and
for the RDS Review, there is still
significant work remaining to address the
impacts of the General Data Protection
Regulation (GDPR) on the WHOIS system.
Delaying either of these reviews would save
many hours of volunteer time. Additionally,
and more broadly, addressing the timing of
reviews, and approach, will contribute to
discussing how to make future reviews more
efficient and more relevant. Deferring a
review that will be impacted by current
Policy Development Processes or other
outside factors, could have significant
savings on productivity and cost."</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Kind
regards,</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Pam</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sender:Austin,
Donna via council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sent
at:2018 Mar 21 (Wed) 07:34</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">To:Heather
Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>;
GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Subject:Re:
[council] [EXTERNAL] <span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Fwd</span>:
[<span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs]
ccNSO Council resolves not to participate
in RDS/WHOIS2</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Heather,
Susan</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Where
does this leave the RDS Review Team in terms
of adequate membership? I know Susan has
raised concerns previously that there isn’t
enough people to do the work. </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is
it possible for the GNSO to recommend
additional candidates to fill the vacancies
left by the ccNSO’s decision not to appoint
volunteers?</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Donna</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
council [<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Heather Forrest<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:51
AM<br>
<b>To:</b> GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [council] <span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Fwd</span>: [<span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs]
ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in
RDS/WHOIS2</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Council colleagues,</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Please note the ccNSO's
affirmed position on RDS/WHOIS2 RT.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,</p>
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From: <b>Katrina Sataki</b> <<a href="mailto:katrina@nic.lv" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">katrina@nic.lv</a>><br>
Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:37 PM<br>
Subject: [<span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs]
ccNSO Council resolves not to
participate in RDS/WHOIS2<br>
To: Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
Cc: <span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Goran</span>
<span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Marby</span>
<<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">goran.marby@icann.org</a>>,
Chris Disspain <<a href="mailto:chris.disspain@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">chris.disspain@board.icann.org</a>>,
<a href="mailto:mike.silber@board.icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">mike.silber@board.icann.org</a>,
SOAC Chairs <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">7 March 2018</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">To: Alan
Greenberg, RDS/WHOIS 2 Review Team,
Chair</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">CC: Chris
Disspain, Mike <span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Silber</span>,
<span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Göran</span>
<span class="m_-9031263446040014060m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Marby</span>,
Chairs of ALAC, ASO, GAC, GNSO,
SSAC, RSAC </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Dear Alan,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">In May 2017, we
informed the ICANN Board of
Directors that the ccNSO did not
find itself in a position to
nominate candidates for the RDS/
WHOIS2 Review Team, and deferred
participation in this specific
review. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 18 January
2018, the ccNSO Council again
discussed its participation in the
review. Following this discussion,
by 16 February 2018, the ccNSO
Council decided not to participate
in the RDS/WHOIS2 specific review. </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">The ccNSO Council
thanks the volunteers who sought
endorsement of the ccNSO.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Katrina Sataki,</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Chair of the
ccNSO </p>
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