<div dir="auto"><div>Hi ,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I would be more cautious here, contracted trying to be too tactical but there may be unintended consequences. We heard Goran many times last talking about proposing changes to reviews but we have no idea about specifics. Pausing may just lead somehow to less serious and small in scope reviews in future with whatever ICANN wants to propose.</div><div dir="auto">Pausing without clear conditions for restart will be another SSR2 drama and playing into narrative that community cannot manage those processes. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best,</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Rafik </div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Mar 23, 2018, 6:10 AM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  

    
  
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    <p>Interesting.  DO we have a view on this folks?  I would not
      object to putting the RDS review on hold.  Far too much to keep
      track of, notably GDPR and the Privacy proxy services IRT.</p>
    <p>Steph<br>
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            <td>Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs] ccNSO
              Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2</td>
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            <td>Thu, 22 Mar 2018 17:26:35 -0300</td>
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            <td>Anthony Harris <a class="m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:harris@cabase.org.ar" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><harris@cabase.org.ar></a></td>
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            <td>'PAMELA LITTLE' <a class="m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:pam.little@alibaba-inc.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><pam.little@alibaba-inc.com></a>,
              'Heather Forrest' <a class="m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a>, 'GNSO
              Council List' <a class="m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><council@gnso.icann.org></a>, 'Austin,
              Donna' <a class="m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Donna.Austin@team.neustar" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"><Donna.Austin@team.neustar></a></td>
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            support Pam’s suggestion.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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            Harris<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#05233d">Antonio
                    Harris</span><span style="font-size:13.5pt;color:black"><br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">De:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
            council [<a class="m_-7492410820468425750moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>] <b>En
              nombre de </b>PAMELA LITTLE<br>
            <b>Enviado el:</b> miércoles, 21 de marzo de 2018 0:55<br>
            <b>Para:</b> Heather Forrest; GNSO Council List; Austin,
            Donna<br>
            <b>Asunto:</b> Re: [council] [EXTERNAL] Fwd: [soac-chairs]
            ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">In
                addition to bandwidth issue<i> </i>and in light of<i> </i>the
                discussions around ICANN budget and GDPR at ICANN61,
                perhaps the community should consider a deferral/pause
                of this review.  </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Also, see
                below excerpt of Goran's latest blog </span><a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">https://www.icann.org/news/blog/budget-discussions-at-icann61</a>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">"...and for
                the RDS Review, there is still significant work
                remaining to address the impacts of the General Data
                Protection Regulation (GDPR) on the WHOIS system.
                Delaying either of these reviews would save many hours
                of volunteer time. Additionally, and more broadly,
                addressing the timing of reviews, and approach, will
                contribute to discussing how to make future reviews more
                efficient and more relevant. Deferring a review that
                will be impacted by current Policy Development Processes
                or other outside factors, could have significant savings
                on productivity and cost."</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Kind
                regards,</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Pam</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">------------------------------------------------------------------</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sender:Austin,
                  Donna via council <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Sent
                  at:2018 Mar 21 (Wed) 07:34</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">To:Heather
                  Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>;
                  GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>></span><u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black">Subject:Re:
                  [council] [EXTERNAL] <span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Fwd</span>:
                  [<span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs]
                  ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in
                  RDS/WHOIS2</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Heather,
                Susan</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Where
                does this leave the RDS Review Team in terms of adequate
                membership? I know Susan has raised concerns previously
                that there isn’t enough people to do the work. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Is
                it possible for the GNSO to recommend additional
                candidates to fill the vacancies left by the ccNSO’s
                decision not to appoint volunteers?</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Donna</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">
                council [<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Heather Forrest<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:51 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [EXTERNAL] [council] <span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Fwd</span>: [<span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs] ccNSO
                Council resolves not to participate in RDS/WHOIS2</span><u></u><u></u></p>
            <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Council colleagues,<u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Please note the ccNSO's affirmed
                  position on RDS/WHOIS2 RT.<u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Best wishes,<u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal">Heather<u></u><u></u></p>
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                    Forwarded message ----------<br>
                    From: <b>Katrina Sataki</b> <<a href="mailto:katrina@nic.lv" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">katrina@nic.lv</a>><br>
                    Date: Wed, Mar 7, 2018 at 1:37 PM<br>
                    Subject: [<span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">soac</span>-chairs]
                    ccNSO Council resolves not to participate in
                    RDS/WHOIS2<br>
                    To: Alan Greenberg <<a href="mailto:alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">alan.greenberg@mcgill.ca</a>><br>
                    Cc: <span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Goran</span> <span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Marby</span> <<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">goran.marby@icann.org</a>>,
                    Chris Disspain <<a href="mailto:chris.disspain@board.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">chris.disspain@board.icann.org</a>>,
                    <a href="mailto:mike.silber@board.icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">mike.silber@board.icann.org</a>,
                    SOAC Chairs <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>><u></u><u></u></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">7 March 2018<u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">To: Alan Greenberg, RDS/WHOIS
                        2 Review Team, Chair<u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">CC: Chris Disspain, Mike <span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Silber</span>, <span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Göran</span> <span class="m_-7492410820468425750spellchecktypo">Marby</span>, Chairs of
                        ALAC, ASO, GAC, GNSO, SSAC, RSAC  <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Dear Alan,<u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">In May 2017, we informed the
                        ICANN Board of Directors that the ccNSO did not
                        find itself in a position to nominate candidates
                        for the RDS/ WHOIS2 Review Team, and deferred
                        participation in this specific review.  <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">On 18 January 2018, the ccNSO
                        Council again discussed its participation in the
                        review. Following this discussion, by 16
                        February 2018, the ccNSO Council decided not to
                        participate in the RDS/WHOIS2 specific review. <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">The ccNSO Council thanks the
                        volunteers who sought endorsement of the ccNSO.<u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Kind regards,<u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Katrina Sataki,<u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Chair of the ccNSO  <u></u><u></u></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p>
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