<div><div dir="auto">If you look at the text in the document you see that I removed the words "we support the government..." and added "governments can". So that we dont just blatantly support them but acknowledge their ability. </div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 2:27 AM Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Strategically,
          suggesting that government can come up with the accreditation
          of their own people is, in my view, important diplomatically. 
          We know that this will be achallenge for them, but who would
          you suggest to replace the GAC in this regard?</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">A five pager to
          respond to a 60 pager, in my view, is a minimal response, I
          dont understand why you think it is indefensible. I can do a
          executive summary if you like, with bullets. this already went
          out in the Art 29 letter.  I think it will add a page
          ultimately, but happy to do it, it is not a problem.</font></font></p></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie Perrin</font></font><br>
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    <div class="m_-3911349505513087498moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-03-10 23:38, farzaneh badii
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          changes to this. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">We don't represent end
          users. so I corrected that. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I don't think we
          support GAC to come up with the list of law enforcement
          agencies who can have access to data. so I changed that to GAC
          can ....</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What we need to push
          for is really to say: tiered access can't happen now, adopt
          model 3 move the tiered access after adoption if you can't
          then a group of community members can work with GAC for coming
          up with layered access.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">A five pager document
          submitted now would be read by no one, would be difficult to
          advocate for. We have to highlight our points on the first
          page, be short and sweet and provide our analysis on the rest
          of the pages (maybe move the points you are making to the
          first and second page.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This is advice only.
          Take it or leave it. I am not the subject matter expert.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 11, 2018 at 3:45 AM, Ayden
          Férdeline <span><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>
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            <div>I support its submission. </div>
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                    On Sat, Mar 10, 2018 at 23:43, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
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                        as we discussed during the NCSG inreach session
                        today and due to the urgency we have to send the
                        letter within 24hours. so we have to get it done
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                      <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">2018-03-10 18:01
                          GMT-04:00 Stephanie Perrin <span><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>></span>:
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                                    as currently drafted.   COmments
                                    welcome.  Thanks to Ayden for many
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