<div dir="ltr"><div><div>May I suggest something like: "We do not support the current suggested harsh cut on these programs but we request an assessment before any such decision can be taken". This is what i would like to see there. I am not that good in English so would suggest a rephrasing so it means this for me. If what is written there is the same as what i am sugesting, then fine with me. The current language on that one sentence is confusing for me.<br><br></div><div>And i will leave this here for you guys to decide as a group.<br></div><div><br></div>Thank you,<br></div>Arsene<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>------------------------<br>*<a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank"><b>Arsène Tungali</b></a>*<br></div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br>Tel: +243 993810967<i><br></i></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i><br></i></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br><br></i></div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Brazil</a> & <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Mexico</a>) <font face="monospace,monospace">- <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" target="_blank">AFRISIG 2016</a> - </font><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - ICANN's <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm" target="_blank">GNSO Council</a> Member.<i> </i>AFRINIC Fellow<i> </i>(<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" target="_blank">Mauritius</a>)<i> - </i><a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" target="_blank">IGFSA Member</a> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.<i> </i><br><br>Check the <i>2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC</i> report (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" target="_blank">English</a>) and (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" target="_blank">French</a>)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-26 12:04 GMT+02:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I feel like I'm responding to a carbon copy of Martin's comment - so my answer remains the same! :-) The dictionary definition of 'rightsizing' is to "convert (something) to an appropriate or optimum size." That's what we are saying, and I think it is apparent if read in the context of the entire paragraph and not that one sentence which has been extracted. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div class="m_-693820714967466122protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_-693820714967466122protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Ayden <br></div><div><br></div></div></div><div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div> On 26 February 2018 10:19 AM, Arsène Tungali <<a href="mailto:arsenebaguma@gmail.com" target="_blank">arsenebaguma@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_-693820714967466122protonmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div><div>I believe this is the section that is problematic in my view and needs to be rephrased: "<span style="background-color:transparent" class="m_-693820714967466122highlight"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)" class="m_-693820714967466122colour"><span style="font-family:"Times New Roman"" class="m_-693820714967466122font"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_-693820714967466122size"><i>We support the rightsizing of the fellowship and NextGen programmes</i>.</span></span></span></span>" It means for me that we support the fact that those programs are cut the way it is suggested in the budget. I don't think we have consensus on this and we should not support, as a SG, the way these programs have been reduced in number (by half or so). I may be wrong though :)<br></div><div><br></div><div>I think what we encourage, and what we have agreement on, is the need for an assessment on the effectiveneess of the program and only after that assessment, we can agree on the right action to take on it. This can lead to a cut in number of attendees or anything else but we cannot say that at this moment, before that professional assessment is done. And I believe that's what we pushed for at Council level.<br></div></div><div>Other than that, i fully support the submission of this comment and would like to thank Ayden and everyone for their participation. After reading the comment, it captures everything we discussed and captures what we stand for. As i always say, this is a good informational piece as well for us.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div><div class="m_-693820714967466122gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>------------------------<br></div><div>*<a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank"><b>Arsène Tungali</b></a>*<br></div></div><div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br></div><div>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br></div><div>Tel: <a href="tel:+243%20993%20810%20967" value="+243993810967" target="_blank">+243 993810967</a><i></i><br></div></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i></i><br></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br></i></div><div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Brazil</a> & <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Mexico</a>) <span style="font-family:monospace,monospace" class="m_-693820714967466122font">- <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" target="_blank">AFRISIG 2016</a> - </span><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - ICANN's <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm" target="_blank">GNSO Council</a> Member.<i> </i>AFRINIC Fellow<i> </i>(<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" target="_blank">Mauritius</a>)<i> - </i><a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" target="_blank">IGFSA Member</a> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.<i> </i><br></div><div><br></div><div>Check the <i>2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC</i> report (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" target="_blank">English</a>) and (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" target="_blank">French</a>)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2018-02-22 6:42 GMT+02:00 Martin Pablo Silva Valent <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com" target="_blank">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div>Hi all, <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><div>Is all good for me, except for the same part I opposed at council level. I do not support the downsizing of the fellowship and nextgen by a blind cut with no metrics and debate to balance it out.<br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">If that is changed slightly like you did for the council to change that part, I will fully support. <br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"> Cheers,<br></div><div dir="auto">Martin <br></div></div></div><div class="m_-693820714967466122HOEnZb"><div class="m_-693820714967466122h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On 21 Feb 2018 21:22, "Rafik Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Thanks Ayden for the revisions,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I want to ask all PC members to review asap the draft for endorsment, the deadline for submission is 2 weeks away and just before PR meeting.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div>Rafik<br></div><div> <br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>2018-02-22 9:14 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Dear all,<br></div><div><br></div><div>I have revised the proposed NCSG comment on the FY19 budget: <br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tBia4z5QQFGz9vFUQUkS0lbZNqU6C5n4pyUmlH3m8e8/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1tBia4z5QQFGz9vFUQUkS0lbZ<wbr>NqU6C5n4pyUmlH3m8e8/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>It has not received very many edits or comments just yet. 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