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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Apologies for the
          confusion, I did not mean for us to discuss this with the
          GNSO, I was just thinking when we meet ourselves with the
          Board, it would send a really good signal to them if we were
          actually working on our own accountability issues and seeking
          their input, rather than (as is usually our style) bellyaching
          about them or the budget or or or....</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Steph</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2018-02-15 19:09, Rafik Dammak
      wrote:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_extra">Hi Stephanie,</div>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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            <div class="gmail_extra">I don't see how this has any
              relation to the meeting between council and board. such
              meeting usually cover ongoing PDP matters and council
              related concerns.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_extra">I am also wondering why we should
              ask the board suggestions about accountability, they can
              (should) easily refer to the work done already in ws2
              regarding SO/AC accountability (already approved and
              Farzaneh was the co-rapporteur). it may even send a wrong
              signal from our side to the board.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_extra">I saw several threads about the
              CROP and understand people concerns. I think we already
              put that in our draft budget comment to complain about the
              cut. as a reminder, CROP is for outreach and not
              targetting our membership or informing them.</div>
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            <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
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            <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik <br>
              <br>
              <div class="gmail_quote">2018-02-16 1:53 GMT+09:00
                Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a
                    href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                    target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca</a>></span>:<br>
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                    <div
class="m_-4849496133200621767m_-6677932597858415274m_-5533820872575001156moz-forward-container">these
                      are not bad questions.  I think we should ask the
                      Board if they have suggestions for greater
                      accountability in our stakeholder group.  Since
                      they are proposing to cut CROP funding, how do
                      they propose we inform our members of the
                      complexity of ICANN policy issues, and ensure they
                      are contributing effectively to the MS model on
                      which ICANN depends?  <br>
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                    <div
class="m_-4849496133200621767m_-6677932597858415274m_-5533820872575001156moz-forward-container">I
                      think our goals for next year should include
                      greater accountability for our actions and
                      expenditures.  $$$ may be going out the window
                      with falling registrar revenues, and we may be
                      coming back to a world where ICANN did not support
                      us for travel and admin.  And nobody would wave
                      goodbye.....<br>
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                      SP<br>
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                              nowrap="nowrap">Subject: </th>
                            <td>Re: [council] Reminder - topics for
                              meeting with ICANN Board at ICANN61</td>
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                            <th align="RIGHT" valign="BASELINE"
                              nowrap="nowrap">Date: </th>
                            <td>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:33:19 +1100</td>
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                            <th align="RIGHT" valign="BASELINE"
                              nowrap="nowrap">From: </th>
                            <td>Heather Forrest <a
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                                href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a></td>
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                              nowrap="nowrap">To: </th>
                            <td>Marika Konings <a
class="m_-4849496133200621767m_-6677932597858415274m_-5533820872575001156moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><marika.konings@icann.org></a></td>
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                              nowrap="nowrap">CC: </th>
                            <td><a
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                                href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">council@gnso.icann.org</a>
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                                href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><council@gnso.icann.org></a></td>
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                          <div dir="ltr">Hello everyone, 
                            <div><br>
                              I hope you've returned home happy and
                              healthy after our time in LA.</div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>We're behind in communicating our
                              questions/topics to the Board for
                              discussion in San Juan. As yet we've had
                              no suggestions. Here are three
                              possibilities to seed the discussion: </div>
                            <div>
                              <ul>
                                <li>SSR2 - the Board has stated on
                                  various recent occasions that it has
                                  'learned lessons' from its handling of
                                  the SSR2-RT pause. What specific
                                  lessons have been learned and how will
                                  these affect future Board action?</li>
                                <li>Goals - The Board has asked the
                                  various community groups to identify
                                  their most relevant longer-term goals.
                                  What are the Board's longer-term
                                  goals, in view of budgetary and market
                                  trends?</li>
                                <li>The GNSO Council devoted time in
                                  January to strategic planning for the
                                  year ahead. Taking into account a
                                  continuously high volume of work and
                                  the FY19 budgetary pressures, we see
                                  the need for and benefit of
                                  prioritisation. Considering the many
                                  activities currently underway in
                                  ICANN, which do the Board consider to
                                  be top priority? What milestones or
                                  achievements is the Board hoping to
                                  reach by the end of 2018?</li>
                              </ul>
                              <div>Best wishes,</div>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
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                            <div>Heather</div>
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                          <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                            <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 7, 2018
                              at 7:56 AM, Marika Konings <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a
                                  href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">marika.konings@icann.org</a>></span>
                              wrote:<br>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:11.0pt">Reminder
                                        – the GNSO Council leadership
                                        team is expected to submit to
                                        the ICANN Board proposed topics
                                        for the joint meeting at
                                        ICANN61. If you have any
                                        proposed topics, please share
                                        these with the list as soon as
                                        possible. Topics are expected to
                                        be submitted by 12 February at
                                        the latest. The Board has
                                        suggested the following two
                                        topics for its meeting with the
                                        GNSO Council:</span></p>
                                    <ul type="disc">
                                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="color:black"> <b><span
                                            style="font-size:11.0pt">What
                                            are your key goals in 2018? </span></b><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt"> The
                                          Board is interested in this
                                          question to make sure that its
                                          own priorities are aligned
                                          with the community’s
                                          priorities.</span></li>
                                      <li class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="color:black"> <b><span
                                            style="font-size:11.0pt">What
                                            are your most relevant
                                            longer-term goals?</span></b><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt">  The
                                          Board is interested in this
                                          question because discussions
                                          about longer-term goals and
                                          strategic planning will
                                          commence soon between the
                                          community, the Board and ICANN
                                          org.</span></li>
                                    </ul>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Best
                                        regards,</span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                        style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black">Marika</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:black"></span></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span
                                            style="font-size:11.0pt">Marika
                                            Konings</span></i></b></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt">Vice
                                          President, Policy Development
                                          Support – GNSO, Internet
                                          Corporation for Assigned Names
                                          and Numbers (ICANN) </span></i></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt">Email:
                                          <a
                                            href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true"> <span
                                              style="color:#0563c1">marika.konings@icann.org</span></a>  </span></i></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt"> </span></i></p>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span
                                          style="font-size:11.0pt">Follow
                                          the GNSO via Twitter
                                          @ICANN_GNSO</span></i></p>
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