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    <p>Normally I would not pester the PC with every twitch and stumble
      of the RDS working group...but we are now in some important
      discussions as to whether law enforcement investigation is a valid
      reason for the collection of information in the RDS.  We just
      actually got a consensus agreement it was NOT....which surprised
      me.  However, EUROPOL, who was the driving force behind the
      dreadful 2007 LE demand for data, is coming out of their corner,
      and the IP lawyers will be quick to support.  A discussion at our
      next policy meeting might be good....I attach the letter from
      report which contains the 2009 LEA communications  for your
      perusal, see page 129 .<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-forward-container">Steph<br>
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            <th align="RIGHT" valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap">Subject:
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            <td>[gnso-rds-pdp-wg] @EXT: RE: IMPORTANT: Invitation for
              Poll from 9 January Meeting</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap">Date: </th>
            <td>Mon, 15 Jan 2018 13:30:04 +0000</td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap">From: </th>
            <td>Mounier, Grégory
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gregory.mounier@europol.europa.eu"><gregory.mounier@europol.europa.eu></a></td>
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            <th align="RIGHT" valign="BASELINE" nowrap="nowrap">To: </th>
            <td>'Chuck' <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:consult@cgomes.com"><consult@cgomes.com></a>,
              '<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>'
              <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org></a></td>
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        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify">Dear all,<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:justify"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify">I will not be
          able to join the call tomorrow so I thought that I should drop
          an email to the list to explain why I voted against the
          proposed possible WG Agreement according to which “<i>Criminal
            Activity/DNS Abuse – Investigation is NOT a legitimate
            purpose for requiring collection of registration data, but
            maybe a legitimate purpose of using some data collected for
            other purposes</i>.”<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify">I think that
          there are a number of rationales/grounds - including in
          ICANN’s Bylaws - to argue that in fact, investigating criminal
          activity and DNS Abuse
          <b>IS</b> a legitimate purpose for requiring the collection of
          registration data.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify">Some of these
          rationales have been mentioned during the discussion on the
          mailing list and during the call on 9<sup>th</sup> January.
          Unfortunately, I think that the proposed possible WG agreement
          does not take into consideration these rationales. I
          specifically disagree with the assumption that we should make
          a distinction between 1) the purpose of collecting the data
          and 2) the purpose for using the data collected for other
          purposes (manage domain registrations). <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify">The reason why
          I disagree with making this distinction is that it leads to
          artificially reduce the importance of a valid and legitimate
          purpose of the WHOIS system, acknowledged by ICANN Bylaws:
          addressing malicious abuse of the DNS and providing a
          framework to address appropriate law enforcement needs.
          (ICANN’s mandate is to “ensure the stable and secure operation
          of the internet’s unique identifier systems”<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" style="mso-footnote-id:ftn1"
            href="#_ftn1" name="_ftnref1" title=""><sup><sup><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">[1]</span></sup></sup></a>
          + WHOIS data is essential for “the legitimate needs of law
          enforcement” and for “promoting consumer trust.”<a
            moz-do-not-send="true" style="mso-footnote-id:ftn2"
            href="#_ftn2" name="_ftnref2" title=""><sup><sup><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">[2]</span></sup></sup></a>
          ). In its document on the three compliance models issued last
          Friday<a moz-do-not-send="true" style="mso-footnote-id:ftn3"
            href="#_ftn3" name="_ftnref3" title=""><sup><sup><span
style="font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-GB">[3]</span></sup></sup></a>,
          ICANN has explicitly included: addressing the needs of law
          enforcement, investigation of cybercrime and DNS abuse as
          legitimate purposes of the WHOIS system.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify">If one of the
          purpose of the WHOIS system is to support a framework to
          address issues involving domain name registrations, including
          investigation of cybercrime and DNS abuse, it can be argued
          that investigating criminal activity and DNS abuse IS a
          legitimate purpose for requiring the collection of
          registration data. Likewise, I think that requiring collection
          of registration data to prevent crime is NOT beyond ICANN's
          mandate because this data is essential for ICANN to fulfil its
          mandate. <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none">I have attached
          a list of relevant references supporting this point of view
          taken from ICANN’s Bylaws and the GDPR.
          <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none">I hope that
          you’ll find this contribution helpful and I’m looking forward
          to reading the transcript of the next call
          <span style="font-family:Wingdings">J</span>.<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify">Best, <o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify">Greg<o:p></o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"
          style="margin-bottom:6.0pt;text-align:justify"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Gregory Mounier<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">Europol<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">European Cybercrime
            Centre<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">+31 6 55782743<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                lang="EN-US"> gnso-rds-pdp-wg [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chuck<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> 12 January 2018 15:21<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] FW: IMPORTANT:
                Invitation for Poll from 9 January Meeting<br>
                <b>Importance:</b> High<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">The
            response to this week’s poll is particularly low so I
            strongly encourage more members to respond so that we have
            enough data to help us in our meeting next week.  Thanks to
            those who have already responded.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Chuck<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            name="_MailEndCompose"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
              lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></a></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
                  lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> gnso-rds-pdp-wg [</span><a
                moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg-bounces@icann.org</span></a><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Marika Konings<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:27 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> </span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org"><span
                  style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</span></a><span
                style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] IMPORTANT: Invitation
                for Poll from 9 January Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Dear
            all,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">In
            follow-up to this week’s WG meeting, <b>all RDS PDP WG
              Members</b> are encouraged to participate in the following
            poll:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VM6S8YK"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/VM6S8YK</span></a><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Responses
            should be submitted through the above URL. For offline
            reference, a PDF of poll questions can also be found at:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">              </span><a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/74580034/Poll-from-9January-Call.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1515544361000&api=v2"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">https://community.icann.org/download/attachments/74580034/Poll-from-9January-Call.pdf?version=1&modificationDate=1515544361000&api=v2</span></a><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt">
            <span lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
              lang="EN-US">This poll will close at COB Saturday 13
              January. </span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
            lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Please
            note that you <u>must be a WG Member</u> to participate in
            polls. If you are a WG Observer wishing to participate in
            polls, you must first contact </span><a
            moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org"><span
              style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">gnso-secs@icann.org</span></a><span
            style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> to upgrade to WG
            Member.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Best
            regards,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US">Marika<o:p></o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt" lang="EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
                lang="EN-US">Marika Konings<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
              lang="EN-US">Vice President, Policy Development Support –
              GNSO, Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers
              (ICANN) <o:p></o:p></span></i></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
              lang="EN-US">Email: </span>
          </i><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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