<div dir="ltr">A GNSO outreach is something we should test and see how it turns out. <br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>------------------------<br>*<a href="http://about.me/ArseneTungali" target="_blank"><b>Arsène Tungali</b></a>*<br></div>Co-Founder & Executive Director, <span><i><a href="http://www.rudiinternational.org" target="_blank">Rudi international</a></i>,</span><br>CEO,<i> <a href="http://www.smart-serv.info" target="_blank">Smart Services Sarl</a></i>, <i><a href="http://www.mabingwa-forum.com" target="_blank">Mabingwa Forum</a></i> <br>Tel: +243 993810967<i><br></i></div><div>GPG: 523644A0<i><br></i></div><div><u>Goma, Democratic Republic of Congo</u><i><br><br></i></div><div><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com/2015/06/selected-for-2015-mandela-washington.html" target="_blank">2015 Mandela Washington Felllow</a> (YALI) - ISOC Ambassador (IGF <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/igf-ambassadors-programme/Past-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Brazil</a> & <a href="http://www.internetsociety.org/what-we-do/education-and-leadership-programmes/next-generation-leaders/Current-Ambassadors" target="_blank">Mexico</a>) <font face="monospace,monospace">- <a href="http://afrisig.org/afrisig-2016/class-of-2016/" target="_blank">AFRISIG 2016</a> - </font><a href="http://tungali.blogspot.com" target="_blank">Blogger</a> - ICANN's <a href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/about/gnso-council.htm" target="_blank">GNSO Council</a> Member.<i> </i>AFRINIC Fellow<i> </i>(<a href="http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/news/1907-afrinic-25-fellowship-winners" target="_blank">Mauritius</a>)<i> - </i><a href="http://www.igfsa.org/" target="_blank">IGFSA Member</a> - Internet Governance - Internet Freedom.<i> </i><br><br>Check the <i>2016 State of Internet Freedom in DRC</i> report (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=234" target="_blank">English</a>) and (<a href="http://cipesa.org/?wpfb_dl=242" target="_blank">French</a>)<br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-12-11 23:17 GMT+02:00 farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Yes as Rafik said we have PDPs scheduled all day on Saturday. I don't know if GNSO would be willing to do a 90 minute outreach even. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">This is a community forum not the policy forum so it is not the morning sessions NCSG sessions it is the usual outreach sessions that are held on Saturday, (one day dedicated to outreach on Saturday). I wanted to do a GNSO outreach. I have good reasons for it. One is that of course I don't want us to compete with PDP sessions. The others are:</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">showing points of contentions to the newcomers and outsiders can actually work well and show them what we do. The whole NCSG council members probably won't be able to attend the stakeholder group outreach because of council meetings. And there is NCUC and probably NPOC outreach too. I have noticed that fellows and newcomers come from various sectors. They don't only send us civil society NGO types. So it is better for them to understand where their real home is. Also people have lack of knowledge about the house structure. I have seen it even among the leaders. <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div></font></span></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7216297598315183698gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 4:12 PM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Maryam just sent me the blocked schedule and it seems like Saturday, GNSO council is gonna have sessions all day!!!! which makes my suggestion absolutely pointless. I will talk to Heather about this. We can't afford a three hour session at all on Saturday. I find it bizarre that GNSO has all day PDP meeting in parallel to outreach. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I have on Sunday NCSG in-reach session which newcomers from civil society are welcome to join and see what we do at NCSG. I probably leave it at that.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><span class="m_7216297598315183698HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_7216297598315183698m_-8327891214127144496gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div></font></span><div><div class="m_7216297598315183698h5">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 2:02 PM, Dr. Tatiana Tropina <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:t.tropina@mpicc.de" target="_blank">t.tropina@mpicc.de</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I am of two minds about this,</p>
<p>while I certainly agree with Ayden's arguments -- I think we
might give it a go and see how it turns out. Many of those
attending our outreach still don't understand that we are a part
of GNSO, what GNSO is doing, how do we participate in the dynamics
-- so we always still show only a piece of the puzzle. This does
create confusion especially for the newcomers -- to show what
policy is about we might want to show what GNSO is doing as a
whole, what the SGs and houses are, why are we a part of it, how
it is connected to the fact that we have a narrow mission, how we
fit a bigger picture. <br>
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<p>So I would be in favour to give it a go. I remember before our
experiment in Copenhagen with Euralo there were also arguments
that we are sharing the prime time, but it worked well. We won't
know until we try.</p>
<p>However, back to Ayden's arguments - if it's less than 2,5 - 3
hours outreach, I would rather be a bit skeptic. <br>
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<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>Tanya <br>
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<div class="m_7216297598315183698m_-8327891214127144496m_7039524996873576435moz-cite-prefix">On 11/12/17 19:18, Ayden Férdeline
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<div>My initial reaction is: I prefer doing our outreach as a
stakeholder group; it gives us a full 90 minutes or so to
emphasise our values and to shine to newcomers. If we do it as
the GNSO, we are sharing the spotlight, have a reduced amount of
time, and might have to watch our words, particularly on issues
where we do not have a common position. We could get into a
situation where we have to be on the defense? Plus, in
reality, we do exist in silos...</div>
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<div>However I look forward to hearing what others think on this
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 05:02, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Dear PC</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I thought it might
be better to do an outreach as GNSO in ICANN 61, saves us
the clash with GNSO council meetings and shows people the
dynamics of the group instead of making them understand
GNSO in silos. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What do you think?
Heather is in favor of it and I will have to talk CPH into
it.</div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div>
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