<div dir="auto">I like it because it's a different approach to try tackle a heavy concern we have been dealing since forever without an obvious answer.<div dir="auto">It would not only be an opportunity to tackle the silos within the gnso, but also outside of it. </div><div dir="auto">Newcomers barely understand the icann and gnso structure, much less procedures. It will be good that, not only the regular ngo or academics see and listen to us, but also other stakeholders we wouldn't normally reach. That give us both a broader outreach and improves the legitimacy of our work.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">As an experiment I am up for it. We can still do communication targeting non commercial people for them to come and join. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Of course, I would support any way you feel is best,but if we were to experiment on all gnso format, I am comfortable as well. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Cheers, </div><div dir="auto">Martin </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 Dec 2017 16:03, "Dr. Tatiana Tropina" <<a href="mailto:t.tropina@mpicc.de">t.tropina@mpicc.de</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>I am of two minds about this,</p>
<p>while I certainly agree with Ayden's arguments -- I think we
might give it a go and see how it turns out. Many of those
attending our outreach still don't understand that we are a part
of GNSO, what GNSO is doing, how do we participate in the dynamics
-- so we always still show only a piece of the puzzle. This does
create confusion especially for the newcomers -- to show what
policy is about we might want to show what GNSO is doing as a
whole, what the SGs and houses are, why are we a part of it, how
it is connected to the fact that we have a narrow mission, how we
fit a bigger picture. <br>
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<p>So I would be in favour to give it a go. I remember before our
experiment in Copenhagen with Euralo there were also arguments
that we are sharing the prime time, but it worked well. We won't
know until we try.</p>
<p>However, back to Ayden's arguments - if it's less than 2,5 - 3
hours outreach, I would rather be a bit skeptic. <br>
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<p>Cheers,</p>
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<div>My initial reaction is: I prefer doing our outreach as a
stakeholder group; it gives us a full 90 minutes or so to
emphasise our values and to shine to newcomers. If we do it as
the GNSO, we are sharing the spotlight, have a reduced amount of
time, and might have to watch our words, particularly on issues
where we do not have a common position. We could get into a
situation where we have to be on the defense? Plus, in
reality, we do exist in silos...</div>
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<div>However I look forward to hearing what others think on this
issue. </div>
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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 05:02, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I thought it might
be better to do an outreach as GNSO in ICANN 61, saves us
the clash with GNSO council meetings and shows people the
dynamics of the group instead of making them understand
GNSO in silos. </div>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">What do you think?
Heather is in favor of it and I will have to talk CPH into
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div>
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