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    <p>Hi Rafik,</p>
    <p>Friday looks like a good solution - will go through the comment
      tonight. Thank you.</p>
    <p>Farz and I are working on the jurisdiction and ombudsman reports
      comments, so a note to all to stay tuned - we will share them this
      week probably.</p>
    <p>Cheers,</p>
    <p>Tanya <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/12/17 10:00, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Hi Ayden,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the question, it seems that
          when it comes to a matter related to technical aspects (they
          are using IETF terminology), "must" is often used while
          "encourage" (6 occurrences )is more for informational matter
          and urging registries to cooperate for example.  knowing how
          much IDNs are facing as problems to be implemented and not
          necessarily seen as a good business opportunity for many
          registrars except for some non-latin scripts, I would think
          the guidelines should be implementable and less onerous in
          order to provide registrants more choice.<br>
          we can put a note anyway saying that we think that we prefer
          the term "shall" or "should" at least which is probably
          stronger "encourage".</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra">btw the staff is keen to give us an
          extension and asking when we can submit. I would suggest to
          them that we can submit by this Friday.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-12-10 6:40 GMT+09:00 Ayden
            Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br>
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              <div>I don't have a strong opinion on this issue or on our
                comment, however, in the <a
href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-idn-guidelines-03mar17-en.pdf"
title="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/draft-idn-guidelines-03mar17-en.pdf"
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                  document</a>, the word "encourage" is used frequently.
                i.e. "Encourage registrars to notify registrants of
                non-conforming registered domain names".<br>
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              <div>Do we think this terminology is appropriate? I prefer
                words like "must" - they give registrants more clarity
                over what they can expect from registrars - but I could
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                  <div>— Ayden<br>
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                    <div>-------- Original Message --------<br>
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                    <div>Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Second
                      Public Comment on IDN Guidelines<br>
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                    <div>Local Time: 9 December 2017 5:37 AM<br>
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                    <div>UTC Time: 9 December 2017 05:37<br>
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                    <div>From: <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
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                    <div>To: ncsg-pc <<a
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                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br>
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                          <div>hi all,<br>
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                          <div>the deadline for submission is 10th
                            December, I will try to ask for few days
                            extension. I would like to ask you review
                            the draft for endorsement or not.<br>
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                          <div>after that, we can focus on several
                            public comments which deadline is around 5th
                            January.<br>
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                          <div>Best,<br>
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                      <div>Rafik<br>
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                        <div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
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                        <div>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Farell
                            Folly</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a
                              href="mailto:farellfolly@gmail.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">farellfolly@gmail.com</a>></span><br>
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                        <div>Date: 2017-12-05 0:38 GMT+09:00<br>
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                        <div>Subject: [NCSG-Discuss] Second Public
                          Comment on IDN Guidelines<br>
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                        <div>To: <a
                            href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu"
                            target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a><br>
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                          <div>Dear All,<br>
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                          <div>In October 2017, ICANN called for a
                            second public comment on the version 4.0 of
                            IDN Guidelines. Actually, following the
                            first round of comments most of the concerns
                            addressed by the community were taken into
                            account. Nevertheless, two questions remain
                            open and some people here may think it is
                            useful to discuss them. Please check what
                            we <a
href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1L6Fj41rkku6g44FkDbvmUc12MAxv99szaRz8OSmnSbE/edit#"
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                            so far and make your suggestions, if any.
                            Otherwise, we won't have a significant
                            comment on this report and just endorse it.<br>
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                                <div>Regards<br>
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                                  <div>@__f_f__<br>
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