<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">just guessing here: maybe the most important stakeholder here the DPA and EC(?) were not available at the proposed dates. The meeting in Brussels office is for the WHOIS RT if I am not mistaking. Anyway, the whole thing seems ill-planned and postponing is not a bad thing.</div><div class="gmail_extra">Still, we need to figure put about participating the webinar and the "open house" meeting. the same issue we could face for the roundtable remains for the open house meeting. We do need a more strategical approach to this and I have the feeling that we are mostly, probably other groups too, in reactive mode and not proactive.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-09-23 20:11 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I wonder what the "stakeholder commitments" were. It is not as though ICANN consulted with us to see if we had representatives who were available to participate; which stakeholders had commitments at that time which precluded their participation, and how did ICANN staff come to be aware of this, I wonder? If it sounds like I am not so subtly insinuating that other stakeholder groups are being consulted informally and we are not being involved in these conversations, I very much.<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div class="m_6240093871853148850protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_6240093871853148850protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>—Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_6240093871853148850protonmail_signature_block-proton m_6240093871853148850protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div></font></span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="m_6240093871853148850protonmail_quote"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [council] Fwd: [soac-chairs] Update on GDPR and Next Steps<br></div><div>Local Time: 23 September 2017 2:53 AM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 23 September 2017 01:53<br></div><div>From: <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br></div><div>To: ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>hi all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>The Brussels meeting is postponed but there are also other planned discussions within the community in coming weeks.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Best,<br></div><div><br></div><div><div>Rafik<br></div><div> <br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></div><div>From: <b class="gmail_sendername">James M. Bladel</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" target="_blank">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>></span><br></div><div>Date: 2017-09-23 7:24 GMT+09:00<br></div><div>Subject: [council] Fwd: [soac-chairs] Update on GDPR and Next Steps<br></div><div>To: GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><div><div name="messageBodySection"><div>Colleagues, see below.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> The Brussels Roundtable idea is off, but may be revisited after Abu Dhabi. Folks gathering in Brussels for the RDS F2F may hold a separate session.<br></div></div><div name="messageSignatureSection"><div><br></div><div>Thank you,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> J.<br></div><div> -----------------<br></div><div> James Bladel<br></div><div> GNSO Chair<br></div></div><div name="messageReplySection"><div><br></div><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></div><div> <b>From:</b> David Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank">david.olive@icann.org</a>><br></div><div> <b>Date:</b> Sep 22, 2017, 16:18 -0500<br></div><div> <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a> <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>><br></div><div> <b>Cc:</b> Goran Marby <<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org" target="_blank">goran.marby@icann.org</a>>, Theresa Swinehart <<a href="mailto:theresa.swinehart@icann.org" target="_blank">theresa.swinehart@icann.org</a>><br></div><div> <b>Subject:</b> [soac-chairs] Update on GDPR and Next Steps<br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div class="m_6240093871853148850m_8616354644304722124WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Dear SO/AC Chairs:</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">I wanted to follow up to my email of September 13th 2017. </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">As I mentioned, we have been exploring organizing a roundtable for the first week of October. Unfortunately, we need to postpone until after ICANN60 due to stakeholder commitments and other meetings in Brussels
at the same time. We will come back to you with a proposed date for this meeting as soon as possible.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">I understand that many of our community are in Brussels anyway the first week in October. I appreciate that some of you may wish to use this opportunity to get together for an “open house” style meeting, allowing
you to discuss GDPR and share your updates and new perspectives. If that’s the case, please let us know and ICANN will organize this at our offices on October 5<sup>th</sup> 2017, including providing some<wbr> limited funding for the meeting. Please let Diana Middleton
(<a href="mailto:diana.middleton@icann.org)" target="_blank">diana.middleton@icann.org)</a> know as soon as possible if you plan to be in Brussels that week anyway and would find such a meeting useful so that we can plan accordingly.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">In addition, we plan to hold an open webinar for the SO/ACs before ICANN60. The intent of this webinar will be to get your input on the scope of the ICANN organization’s facilitation efforts on GDPR. <wbr>We are
pulling together details on the webinar now and will share more information shortly.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">We look forward to continuing to work with you and your communities on facilitating a community discussion about GDPR – including the cross-community session at ICANN60. Please communicate your feedback regarding
this session to Cyrus Namazi (<a href="mailto:cyrus.namazi@icann.org)" target="_blank">cyrus.namazi@icann.org)</a> who is the senior staff coordinator for this session at ICANN60.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Best regards, </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">David</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">David A. Olive<br> Senior Vice President</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Policy Development Support</span><span style="font-family:PMingLiU,serif" class="m_6240093871853148850font"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"><br> </span></span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)<br> </span></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black" class="m_6240093871853148850colour">From:</span></b> <span style="color:black" class="m_6240093871853148850colour"> David Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org" target="_blank">david.olive@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Date:</b> Wednesday, September 13, 2017 at 2:34 PM<br> <b>To:</b> "<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org" target="_blank">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> Goran Marby <<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org" target="_blank">goran.marby@icann.org</a>>, Theresa Swinehart <<a href="mailto:theresa.swinehart@icann.org" target="_blank">theresa.swinehart@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> IMPORTANT REQUEST: Update on GDPR and Next Steps</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Dear SO/AC Chairs:</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">As you know, the topic of the GDPR is an important one, in particular to the relationship of WHOIS and the GDPR. We’ve undertaken much work to receive input on the user stories, which have been published together
with a blog updating on progress to date and next steps. </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">As we engage on the topic and share the user stories, and possible implications of the legislation on existing WHOIS policy, we would like to give the opportunity to the SO and ACs to engage and join in meetings
to provide their perspectives. </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">With this, Göran has asked me to invite SO/AC representatives to a roundtable in Brussels to share your perspectives on the topic, and have a direct dialogue with the EC and available DPAs. We are still determining
the date for this roundtable in the first week of October. ICANN organization will facilitate but not participate in the roundtable. In preparation, we’d like to invite you, should you wish, to identify 2 representatives from your SO and AC’s, for which we
can provide limited travel support, to join for this roundtable. We are also exploring remote participation so others in the ICANN Community can listen to the roundtable discussion.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Related, the latest postings including the updated user stories/summary document are listed below and may be of interest: </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">New blog: <a href="https://www.icann.org/news/blog/data-protection-and-privacy-progress-update-and-next-steps" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/ne<wbr>ws/blog/data-protection-and-pr<wbr>ivacy-progress-update-and-next<wbr>-steps</a></span><br></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Updated user stories/summary document <a href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-en.pdf" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org<wbr>/en/system/files/files/gdpr-<wbr>dataflow-matrix-whois-11sep17-<wbr>en.pdf</a> (Posted
on the gTLD Registration Dataflow Matrix and Information <a href="https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/gtld-registration-dataflow-matrix-2017-07-24-en" target="_blank">page</a>)</span><br></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Please contact me or Theresa Swinehart, and we look forward to following up with you. </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Best regards, </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">David</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">David A. Olive<br> Senior Vice President</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Policy Development Support</span><span style="font-family:PMingLiU,serif" class="m_6240093871853148850font"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size"><br> </span></span><span style="font-size:9pt" class="m_6240093871853148850size">Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)</span><span> </span></p></div></blockquote></div></div><div><br></div><div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div> council mailing list<br></div><div> <a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org" target="_blank">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br></div><div> <a href="https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/council" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://mm.icann.org/mailman/l<wbr>istinfo/council</a><br></div><div> <br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div>