<div>I support the request for full transparency and the availability of remote participation. I think Stephanie is best placed to be our primary delegate on this topic, if she is available (the dates might overlap with Canadian Thanksgiving). However, if this is taking place at the same time as the WHOIS2 face-to-face in Brussels, she may not require the travel support and we may be able to use the support to bring another person  in from further afield? I am thinking Robin, Kathy, Milton... others who know this issue (WHOIS and privacy implications) and have had a longstanding engagement with it. That said, I am but a short train ride from Brussels - I am happy to be an alternate delegate if need be. Thanks!<br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block"><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>—Ayden <br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Attention Non-Contracted Party House leadership / IMPORTANT REQUEST: Update on GDPR and Next Steps<br></div><div>Local Time: 18 September 2017 6:37 AM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 18 September 2017 05:37<br></div><div>From: stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<br></div><div>To: ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is<br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="size"><span style="font-family:Lucida Grande" class="font">I think we should
          insist on remote participation and full transparency.  The registrars
          are all going to be at the Centr conference.</span></span><br></p><p><span style="font-size:undefinedpx" class="size"><span style="font-family:Lucida Grande" class="font">Stephanie</span></span><br></p><div><br></div><div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-09-18 01:23, William Drake
      wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>Hi<br></div><div><br></div><div>Are they planning on having remote
        participation? If not can we request? I'd be keen to participate
        if the date works and am undoubtedly not alone in this...<br></div><div><br></div><div>Bill (observer)<br></div><div><div><br></div><div>Sent from my iPad<br></div></div><div><div><br></div><div>On Sep 18, 2017, at 03:53, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>
        wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi all, <br></div><div><br></div><div>We need to act on this matter. If I understand
              correctly, either it will be a representative by House or
              if we can 1 representative by SG.<br></div><div><div>We need to suggest a name from our side asap.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> Best,<br></div></div><div><br></div><div>Rafik<br></div><div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>---------- Forwarded message
                ----------<br></div><div> From: <b class="gmail_sendername">Terri Agnew</b> <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:terri.agnew@icann.org">terri.agnew@icann.org</a>></span><br></div><div> Date: 2017-09-16 0:37 GMT+09:00<br></div><div> Subject: Attention Non-Contracted Party House leadership
                / IMPORTANT REQUEST: Update on GDPR and Next Steps<br></div><div> To: "<a href="mailto:csg-excomm@icann.org">csg-excomm@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:csg-excomm@icann.org">csg-excomm@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>>,
                "<a href="mailto:joan@npoc.org">joan@npoc.org</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:joan@npoc.org">joan@npoc.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:joankerr@fbsc.org">joankerr@fbsc.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com">plommer@gmail.com</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:plommer@gmail.com">plommer@gmail.com</a>>, "<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>>,
                Johan Helsingius <<a href="mailto:julf@julf.com">julf@julf.com</a>>,
                Chantelle Doerksen <<a href="mailto:chantelle.doerksen@icann.org">chantelle.doerksen@icann.org</a>>,
                Maryam Bakoshi <<a href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a>>,
                Susan Kawaguchi <<a href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com">susankpolicy@gmail.com</a>>,
                Phil Corwin <<a href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com">psc@vlaw-dc.com</a>>,
                Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a>>,
                icannlists <<a href="mailto:icannlists@winston.com">icannlists@winston.com</a>>,
                "<a href="mailto:Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben@t-online.de">Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben@t-online.de</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben@t-online.de">Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben@t-online.de</a>>,
                "<a href="mailto:harris@cabase.org.ar">harris@cabase.org.ar</a>" <<a href="mailto:harris@cabase.org.ar">harris@cabase.org.ar</a>>,
                Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>>,
                "<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>>,
                Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>>,
                Marilia Maciel <<a href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com">mariliamaciel@gmail.com</a>>,
                Stefania Milan <<a href="mailto:stefania.milan@eui.eu">stefania.milan@eui.eu</a>>,
                "<a href="mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com">tatiana.tropina@gmail.com</a>"
                <<a href="mailto:tatiana.tropina@gmail.com">tatiana.tropina@gmail.com</a>><br></div><div> Cc: Marika Konings <<a href="mailto:marika.konings@icann.org">marika.konings@icann.org</a>>,
                Mary Wong <<a href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org">mary.wong@icann.org</a>>, "<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>" <<a href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>><br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div> <br></div><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US"><div class="m_8319682705272972700WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Dear Non-Contracted Party House
                      leadership,<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Please see the message below
                      from James Bladel. You are requested to identify
                      as soon as possible a primary and alternate
                      delegate from your House to receive travel support
                      to attend a roundtable in Brussels to share your
                      perspectives on the topic of GDPR, and have a
                      direct dialogue with the EC and available DPAs.
                      Note that at this stage travel support is only
                      available for the primary delegate, but a request
                      has been made by James to also provide support for
                      the alternate. Also note that the meeting is also
                      open to others to attend at their own expense.
                      Please let us know what staff can do, if anything,
                      to facilitate your selection of the primary and
                      alternate delegate.  <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks,<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Marika<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df
                      1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size">From: </span></span></b><span style="color:black" class="colour"><span style="font-size:12pt" class="size"><<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.icann.<wbr>org</a>>
                          on behalf of "James M. Bladel" <<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>><br> <b>Date: </b>Friday, September 15, 2017 at
                          16:12<br> <b>To: </b>GNSO Council List <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a>><br> <b>Subject: </b>[council] Fwd: Re:
                          [soac-chairs] IMPORTANT REQUEST: Update on
                          GDPR and Next Steps</span></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p></div><div name="messageBodySection"><p class="MsoNormal"></p><div>Councilors -<br></div><div> <br></div><div> See thread below. ICANN is convening a round
                        table discussion on the subject of GDPR in
                        Brussels in early October, and will support 2
                        delegates from each SO/AC. I have also included
                        my reply to David, noting that this is not
                        sufficient to capture all views within the GNSO.<br></div><div> <br></div><div> While ICANN considers this, however, we need the
                        SGs and Cs to meet and identify 2 candidate (one
                        primary and one alternate) to represent their
                        House in Brussels. GNSO Staff will contact the
                        SG/C leaders to get this started. I'll then work
                        with Staff to get these names submitted to
                        David, Theresa, and Göran.<span style="font-family:PMingLiU" class="font"><br> <br> </span>If we are limited to 2 travelers, then
                        the Primaries will go, but if we are granted 4,
                        we'll call up the Alternates as well. Note that
                        my understanding is that these will be open
                        discussions, and folks are free to attend the
                        meeting on their own. I expect there will also
                        be support for remote participation options.</div><p></p></div><div name="messageSignatureSection"><p class="MsoNormal"></p><div><br></div><div>Thank you,<br></div><div> <br></div><div> J.<br></div><div> -----------------<br></div><div> James Bladel<br></div><div> GNSO Chair<br></div><p></p></div><div name="messageReplySection"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"></p><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>---------- Forwarded message ----------<br></div><div> <b>From:</b> James M. Bladel<br></div><div> <b>Date:</b> Sep 13, 2017, 15:48 -0700<br></div><div> <b>To:</b> David Olive , <a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org">soac-chairs@icann.org</a><br></div><div> <b>Cc:</b> Goran Marby , Theresa Swinehart<br></div><div> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [soac-chairs] IMPORTANT
                        REQUEST: Update on GDPR and Next Steps<br></div><p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear David, Göran, and
                            SO/AC Colleagues –<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">First off, many thanks to
                            ICANN for convening this group. Anxiety and
                            uncertainty surrounding GDPR is high, and
                            urgent action is necessary to fill in some
                            of what we currently do not know.<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"></p><div><br></div><div>That said, I must note that allocating 2
                            representatives from the GNSO is not a
                            viable approach.  The GNSO is home to
                            Contracted Parties (Registries and
                            Registrars), along with individuals and
                            organizations representing the interests of
                            Intellectual Property owners, Business &
                            Commercial users, civil society, and privacy
                            advocacy groups.  Asking this spectrum of
                            stakeholders to decide on 2 delegates who
                            are capable of representing all views isn’t
                            practical.  Or, to put it another way, if I
                            go back to the GNSO and ask for two slots
                            for a high-level GDPR meeting, my SO will
                            eat me alive.<br></div><p></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Therefore, I am
                            respectfully requesting that ICANN consider
                            expanding the GNSO delegation to a minimum
                            of 4 individuals.  I expect that many more
                            folks from the GNSO will attend on their
                            own.<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" class="colour">Thank
                              you,</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" class="colour"> </span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" class="colour">J.</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" class="colour">------------------</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" class="colour">James
                              Bladel</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black" class="colour">GNSO
                              Chair</span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid
                            #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="color:black" class="colour">From:</span></b> <span style="color:black" class="colour"><<a href="mailto:soac-chairs-bounces@icann.org">soac-chairs-bounces@icann.org</a><wbr>>
                                on behalf of David Olive <<a href="mailto:david.olive@icann.org">david.olive@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Date:</b> Wednesday, September 13,
                                2017 at 12:34<br> <b>To:</b> SO-AC Chairs List <<a href="mailto:soac-chairs@icann.org">soac-chairs@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> Goran Marby <<a href="mailto:goran.marby@icann.org">goran.marby@icann.org</a>>,
                                Theresa Swinehart <<a href="mailto:theresa.swinehart@icann.org">theresa.swinehart@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Subject:</b> [soac-chairs] IMPORTANT
                                REQUEST: Update on GDPR and Next Steps</span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p></div><p class="MsoNormal">Dear SO/AC Chairs:<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">As you know, the topic of
                            the GDPR is an important one, in particular
                            to the relationship of WHOIS and the GDPR.
                            We’ve undertaken much work to receive input
                            on the user stories, which have been
                            published together with a blog updating on
                            progress to date and next steps. <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">As we engage on the topic
                            and share the user stories, and possible
                            implications of the legislation on existing
                            WHOIS policy, we would like to give the
                            opportunity to the SO and ACs to engage and
                            join in meetings to provide their
                            perspectives. <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">With this, Göran has
                            asked me to invite SO/AC representatives to
                            a roundtable in Brussels to share your
                            perspectives on the topic, and have a direct
                            dialogue with the EC and available DPAs. We
                            are still determining the date for this
                            roundtable in the first week of October.
                            ICANN organization will facilitate but not
                            participate in the roundtable. In
                            preparation, we’d like to invite you, should
                            you wish, to identify 2 representatives from
                            your SO and AC’s, for which we can provide
                            limited travel support, to join for this
                            roundtable. We are also exploring remote
                            participation so others in the ICANN
                            Community can listen to the roundtable
                            discussion.<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Related, the latest
                            postings including the updated user
                            stories/summary document are listed below
                            and may be of interest: <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><ul type="disc"><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in">New blog: <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_news_blog_data-2Dprotection-2Dand-2Dprivacy-2Dprogress-2Dupdate-2Dand-2Dnext-2Dsteps&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=sbjs9BcxtYL3zDD9W0oshB0k68CPRRR1mG3_0VNj6iA&s=Esec454-x6BQ79nlua9nfMmSvgBFfdxGbFpO2wPgbDE&e=">https://www.icann.org/<wbr>news/blog/data-protection-and-<wbr>privacy-progress-update-and-<wbr>next-steps[icann.org]</a><br></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:0in">Updated user
                              stories/summary document <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_en_system_files_files_gdpr-2Ddataflow-2Dmatrix-2Dwhois-2D11sep17-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=sbjs9BcxtYL3zDD9W0oshB0k68CPRRR1mG3_0VNj6iA&s=y2Gfac-753MPuebPwx1SVyx6v6nsvmfFRvE2MtAtOH8&e=">https://www.icann.<wbr>org/en/system/files/files/<wbr>gdpr-dataflow-matrix-whois-<wbr>11sep17-en.pdf[icann.org]</a> (<wbr>Posted
                              on the gTLD Registration Dataflow Matrix
                              and Information <a href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.icann.org_resources_pages_gtld-2Dregistration-2Ddataflow-2Dmatrix-2D2017-2D07-2D24-2Den&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=7_PQAir-9nJQ2uB2cWiTDDDo5Hfy5HL9rSTe65iXLVM&m=sbjs9BcxtYL3zDD9W0oshB0k68CPRRR1mG3_0VNj6iA&s=ogaMrsH_3Zru4JOnAhkqiXkshDH-jh6AHhwDxQPsCxc&e=">page[icann.org]</a>)<br></li></ul><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Please contact me or
                            Theresa Swinehart, and we look forward to
                            following up with you. <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Best regards, <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">David<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="size">David A. Olive<br> Senior Vice President</span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span style="font-size:9pt" class="size">Policy Development
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