<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Matt,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">we are not suggesting the withdrawal per se since it is in the initial motion from Keith. we are proposing amendments in that area to give the working group more time to provide a proposal (ICANN61 instead of ICANN60 as proposed initially). There was already some question on the transition phase between withdrawing and resume the working group with a new structure. <br>
<br>we cannot address the council concerns in the motion. We are proposing a new amendment asking the council to itemize those concerns. The working group can then be tasked to respond to them.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">the working group will have basically to work on proposing a new vehicle and responding to the accountability and reporting concerns.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-08 0:20 GMT+09:00 Matthew Shears <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com" target="_blank">matthew@intpolicy.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Hi Rafik</p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:8pt;margin-bottom:0pt">Not
sure where this is at the moment, but I am a little confused by
this</p>
<p dir="ltr" style="line-height:1.38;margin-top:8pt;margin-bottom:0pt"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:Arial;color:#333333;background-color:transparent;font-weight:400;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;text-decoration:none;vertical-align:baseline">4.
To facilitate the work as requested under Resolved clause #3,
allowing for a reasonable time to coordinate with other SOs and
ACs to develop a new structure, and to ensure there is no gap
between the retirement of the CCWG-IC and the establishment of
its successor group, the GNSO Council shall withdraw as a
Chartering Organization from the CCWG-IG effective at the
conclusion of ICANN 61 .</span><br>
</p>
<br>
So we are suggesting the GNSO is withdrawing only because of the
structure - have we addressed the Council's other concerns? (Does
this assume that whatever other structure the WG-IG assume will not
require the GNSO's support or endorsement?) One of the key issues,
I understood, was that there needed to be some accountability of the
WG-IG back to the Council or constituencies. How then would this be
accounted for? Or perhaps the discussion has moved on and I am not
up to speed.<br>
<br>
Thanks.<br>
<br>
Matthew<div><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class="m_6775909980563852075moz-cite-prefix">On 07/08/2017 13:50, Rafik Dammak
wrote:<br>
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</div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="h5">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_extra">Hi Stephanie,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">I shared the proposed amendments in
this list just after the last call but I didn't get any
comment <a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/pipermail/ncsg-pc/2017-July/000737.html" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/<wbr>pipermail/ncsg-pc/2017-July/<wbr>000737.html</a>.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">no, we didn't submit the amendments to
the council.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Rafik <br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">2017-08-07 21:46 GMT+09:00 Stephanie
Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>></span>:<br>
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Just
checking, have we submitted our proposal for the
IG item (see bolded bit below item 7) to the GNSO
list? Deadline looming....</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers SP</font></font><br>
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<td>Re: [council] Action Items: GNSO Council
meeting 13 July 2017</td>
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<td>Mon, 7 Aug 2017 13:18:38 +1000</td>
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<th nowrap valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT">From: </th>
<td>Heather Forrest <a class="m_6775909980563852075gmail-m_6316652965819263398moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com" target="_blank"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a></td>
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<td>James M. Bladel <a class="m_6775909980563852075gmail-m_6316652965819263398moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" target="_blank"><jbladel@godaddy.com></a>,
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Jeff Neuman <a class="m_6775909980563852075gmail-m_6316652965819263398moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeff.neuman@comlaude.com" target="_blank"><jeff.neuman@comlaude.com></a>,
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<div dir="ltr">Dear colleagues,
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Just following up on the point made by
James on 18 July about whether or not to put
the CWG-UCTN Final Report on our August
agenda, or hold it to September's agenda. FYI
the following has taken place since 18 July:</div>
<div>
<ul>
<li>ccNSO Council has voted on and approved
the CWG-UCTN Final Report</li>
<li>SubPro is in the process of creating
Work Track 5 on geo names</li>
</ul>
<div>As a co-chair of this CWG, my personal
view is that the GNSO can endorse the Final
Report, but should make comments in the
motion pointing to SubPro and the new WT5.
In my view, the timing of such a motion (and
how forcefully we make our comments about
WT5) is dependent upon SubPro - let's put
this on Council's agenda at a time most
helpful to SubPro and WT5. With that in
mind, I suggest we take some guidance from
Jeff and Avri here. </div>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I note that our document deadline for
August meeting is in roughly 7 days, so we
need time to pull together a motion if this is
going onto the August agenda.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Best wishes,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Heather</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at
10:17 AM, James M. Bladel <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jbladel@godaddy.com" target="_blank">jbladel@godaddy.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div name="messageBodySection">Thank you,
Nathalie.<br>
<br>
Council Colleagues, a few semi-random
thoughts on the items below:<br>
<br>
#6. We have a small team working on the
GNSO Response to the GAC's Johannesburg
communique. Expect final draft language
this week, with approval via email
ballot to follow. The goal is to provide
our response to the Board in advance of
their meeting with the GAC in
mid-August.<br>
<br>
<b>#7. CCWG-IG - Please note that this
item was </b><b><u>deferred</u></b><b>,
rather than withdrawn. This means that
it will appear on our next meeting's
ballot for a vote. I know that some
folks wanted to submit amendments, and
I urge that these be posted to the
Council list by the next document
deadline (14 AUG), or the motion will
head to a vote un-amended.</b><b><br>
</b><b> </b><br>
#8. This discussion item has been
rescheduled for two subsequent meetings,
so I'm hopeful that we will give it full
consideration during our next meeting. I
recommend we move it to the top of our
non-voting agenda.<br>
<br>
#9. Because this item is related to
other ongoing activities, including
follow-up from the GeoNames sessions in
Johannesburg and the formation of SubPro
Work Track 5, a motion for a vote may or
may not appear on our August agenda.
Stay tuned for further developments.<br>
</div>
<div name="messageSignatureSection"><br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
J.<br>
-----------------<br>
James Bladel<br>
GNSO Chair<br>
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On Jul 17, 2017, 16:50 -0500,
Nathalie Peregrine <<a href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org" target="_blank">nathalie.peregrine@icann.org</a>><wbr>,
wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)">Dear
Councilors,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(51,51,51)"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black" lang="EN-GB">Please find the
action items as stated
during the meeting, below
and as attachment arising
from the GNSO Council
meeting held on Thursday 13
July 2017. P</span><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(64,64,64)">lease
take note of the action
items coming out of the
Council sessions and the
proposed timing for
delivering on these actions.
</span></p>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top:7.5pt"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">ACTION
ITEMS GNSO COUNCIL
MEETING 13 July 2017</span></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Item
3. Consent Agenda -
Appointment of James
Bladel as the GNSO
Representative to the
Empowered Community</span></u></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">the
GNSO Secretariat to
communicate this
decision to the ICANN
Secretary which will
serve as the required
written certification
from the GNSO Chair
designating the
individual who shall
represent the Decisional
Participant on the EC
Administration.</span> </li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Item
4: COUNCIL VOTE –
Proposed Fundamental
Bylaw Changes</span></u></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">GNSO
Secretariat to forward
the adopted resolution
to the Empowered
Community Administration
before the expiration of
the Approval Action
Decision Period, as
required under Section
1.4, Article 1, Annex D
of the ICANN Bylaws.</span>
</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">James
Bladel, the GNSO’s
representative to the
Empowered Community
Administration, to
coordinate with the
other four Decisional
Participant
representatives to
ensure that the
Empowered Community
Administration observes
and completes the
appropriate process
outlined in Section
1.4(b) and (c), Annex D.</span>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Item
6. COUNCIL VOTE –
Approval of GNSO
Council Review of the
GAC Communique from
Johannesburg</span></u></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Volunteers
to revise response to
GAC Communique and
circulate revised draft
to the Council as soon
as possible. Volunteers
include: Paul, James,
Jeff Neuman (if
allowed), Rubens,
Heather (sanity check),
Phil, Darcy, possibly
Stephanie (to convey
Avri’s views), and
Carlos. Volunteers to
consider input received
in relation to Geo Names
section as well as IGO
section, including
offering the opportunity
to detail IGO/INGO CRP
recommendations with the
ICANN Board prior to a
vote being taken to
provide details how
small group, IGO
comments factored into
Final Report and
recommendations.</span>
</li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">GNSO
Leadership to provide
7-day notice of e-vote
to approve response to
GAC Communique</span> </li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Item
7: COUNCIL Vote – Next
steps in relation to
Charter for the Cross
Community Working
Group on Internet
Governance</span></u></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Motion
deferred - GNSO
leadership to add this
item to the Council
agenda for August
meeting.</span> </li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">All
Council members to
provide input and
proposed amendments to
the motions as soon as
possible so that
discussion can continue
on the mailing list
ahead of the meeting. </span></li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Item
8. COUNCIL DISCUSSION
– Possible Change to
the Name of the GNSO</span></u></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Item
deferred – GNSO Council
leadership to add this
item to the Council
agenda for August
meeting.</span> </li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Item
9: COUNCIL DISCUSSION
– Cross Community
Working Group on the
Use of Country and
Territory Names</span></u></b></p>
<ul style="margin-top:0in" type="disc">
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Council
members to consider
drafting Motion for
August meeting on this
topic.</span> </li>
<li class="MsoNormal" style="color:black;margin-left:0in">
<span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Ben
Fuller to solicit input
from ccNSO on this topic
and provide feedback to
the GNSO Council</span>
</li>
</ul>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><u><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"><span style="text-decoration:none"> </span></span></u></b></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Thank
you,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Kind
regards,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Nathalie</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Nathalie
Peregrine</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Specialist,
SOAC Support
(GNSO)</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:black">Internet
Corporation for
Assigned Names and
Numbers (ICANN) </span></p>
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