<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>+1 Avri,<br><br></div>Total concur with your view point on this one.<br><br></div>Kind Regards<br><br></div>Poncelet<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 29 July 2017 at 17:05, avri doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" target="_blank">avri@apc.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">(observer)<br>
<br>
Hi,<br>
<br>
on the geo-names issue:<br>
<br>
I wonder why mention a ccnso pdp - that seems to be tempting the bears.<br>
<br>
I would remove "rather than initiate a ccNSO PDP on country and<br>
territory names at the top-level"<br>
<br>
Otherwise i do not see the problem.<br>
<br>
avri<br>
<br>
On 27-Jul-17 20:28, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
> hi all,<br>
><br>
> the discussion about the text for geonames in GNSO response is<br>
> ongoing. we should agree on what can be acceptable for NCSG.<br>
> @Avri any thought on this? is the new text helpful for the subsequent<br>
> procedures WG?<br>
><br>
> Best,<br>
><br>
> Rafik<br>
><br>
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> From: *Austin, Donna via council* <<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:council@gnso.icann.org">council@gnso.icann.org</a><wbr>>><br>
> Date: 2017-07-28 0:11 GMT+09:00<br>
> Subject: Re: [council] DOODLE to finalise updated GNSO Review of the<br>
> GAC Communique<br>
> To: Heather Forrest <<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com">haforrestesq@gmail.com</a><wbr>>>, GNSO Council List<br>
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> <<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com">jeff.neuman@valideus.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jeff.neuman@valideus.com">jeff.neuman@valideus.<wbr>com</a>>><br>
><br>
><br>
> Heather, All<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> During an RySG call yesterday there was considerable discussion about<br>
> the merits of each of the proposed options relating to the geographic<br>
> names.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> I understand (and sincerely apologise) this request is late in the<br>
> day; however, the RySG has requested that consideration be given to a<br>
> potential third option that would serve to replace both Option A and<br>
> Option B. As you will see, this third option contains the main<br>
> elements of both Option A and B, and also addresses the comment from<br>
> Paul McGrady that the response call out the community discussions in<br>
> Johannesburg:<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> /The GNSO Council also takes note of the “Geographic Names as<br>
> Top-Level Domains“ section of the communiqué restating previous advice<br>
> and positions. Among those positions are references that imply that<br>
> certain geographic top-level domains should be addressed by, and only<br>
> through, a ccNSO PDP. With respect to that position we note that<br>
> rather than initiative a ccNSO PDP on country and territory names at<br>
> the top-level, the ccNSO established a Cross Community Working Group<br>
> on the Use of Country and Territory Names (CCWG UCTN) that was jointly<br>
> chartered by the ccNSO and GNSO. The CCWG UCTN recently produced a<br>
> final report, but was unable to provide recommendations on the use of<br>
> country and territory names as TLDs, beyond the use of two-characters.<br>
> The GNSO strongly believes that these issues are currently within the<br>
> scope and charter of the GNSO Policy Development Process on New gTLD<br>
> Subsequent Procedures (SubPro PDP). As a result of the recent Cross<br>
> Community Discussions on geographic names conducted at ICANN 59, the<br>
> SubPro PDP is establishing a new Work Track 5 on Geographic Names at<br>
> the Top Level and inviting representatives from each of the SOs and<br>
> ACs to form a Leadership Team for that Work Track. The GNSO Council<br>
> encourages participation from the community, including the GAC, in<br>
> that SubPro PDP to ensure a multi-stakeholder bottom up solution to<br>
> this issue./<br>
><br>
> / /<br>
><br>
> /This approach is consistent with the GAC’s position also contained in<br>
> the “Geographic Names as Top-Level Domains” section of the communiqué<br>
> “ … that any further process of policy review and development should:<br>
> (a) continue to allow all stakeholder groups to participate equally;<br>
> (b) take into account the history and rationale of the arrangements<br>
> currently in place; and (c) apply an evidence-based policy approach to<br>
> any proposals for future arrangements.”/<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> As Rubens has already noted on the Council list, the respective<br>
> authors of Options A and B both recognize potential shortcomings of<br>
> their suggested text and to that end both Rubens and Jeff both support<br>
> the proposed amendment.<br>
><br>
> Thank you for considering this late amendment, which serves to replace<br>
> both Option A and Option B.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Donna<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> *From:*<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</a><br>
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:council-bounces@gnso.icann.org">council-bounces@gnso.<wbr>icann.org</a>>] *On Behalf Of *Heather Forrest<br>
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> *Subject:* [council] DOODLE to finalise updated GNSO Review of the GAC<br>
> Communique<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Dear Council colleagues,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We have reached a point of near finalization of the GNSO Response to<br>
> the GAC Johannesburg Communique. The one outstanding item amongst the<br>
> members of the revision team is the text relating to geographic names.<br>
> You'll see this text in the attached draft as Option A and Option B.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> For our input to reach the Board in time for its meeting with the GAC<br>
> in the week of 14 August, we cannot push this out to the next Council<br>
> meeting in late August. For our response to be timely and effective,<br>
> we need a Communique Response that we can agree on in full before it<br>
> goes to electronic vote.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> We had scheduled an electronic Council vote to open this Thursday, but<br>
> we don't yet have a final text to vote on. Hence I propose we delay<br>
> the electronic vote to open next Monday to give us all time to<br>
> consider and take instructions (if appropriate) on Option A and B.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> To help us get to final, votable text, please could you review the<br>
> attached and complete the Doodle to express support for either Option<br>
> A or B on geo names.<br>
><br>
><br>
> *Doodle:* <a href="https://icannorg.doodle.com/poll/yqdx3g5gdfi5uz2t" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://icannorg.doodle.com/<wbr>poll/yqdx3g5gdfi5uz2t</a><br>
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><br>
><br>
><br>
> *Timeline*:<br>
><br>
> ·Monday, 24 July: Doodle (to select Option A or B on geo names text) opens<br>
><br>
> ·Friday, 28 July: Doodle closes<br>
><br>
> ·Monday, 31 July: Electronic vote on Council motion approving the GNSO<br>
> Response to GAC Joburg Communique (including preferred Option A or B)<br>
> opens<br>
><br>
> ·Friday, 4 August: Electronic vote closes<br>
><br>
> ·Monday, 7 August: GNSO Response to GAC Communique transmitted to Board<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Many thanks to Marika and the Secretariat team for helping to<br>
> coordinate both the Doodle and e-vote in such a tight timeframe. Also<br>
> noting that James and Donna are both away today, so I'm on point to<br>
> shepherd this through.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Best wishes to all,<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> Heather<br>
><br>
><br>
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