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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">You make some good
points. Probably I am just feeling cheap and broke; these
things always cost me money.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Steph</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-07-29 13:01, avri doria wrote:<br>
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I think that the annual conversation between CSG et al and NCSG et al,
is a good thing and an important thing. I think it also should be
coordinated with staff contacts so that both CSG and NCSG can hear the
same things.
I think the GNSO council et al spending some time in retreat is also
important for building a council that can sustain working together. It
can't happen at the full meetings, so makes sense that it happen outside
that. I think this should also be don with staff access.
I think all of these meetings are best done in proximity to an ICANN
office and offset from the 3 main meetings.
The meetings need planning and focus, but I do not believe it wise to
let them drop.
avri
On 28-Jul-17 18:48, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
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I am not enthusiastic about more meetings either. And I am not keen
on travelling to the US.....Los Angeles takes way longer than Iceland,
for me, with way more hassle. I have never been to Mexico, so I dont
know how hard that is. Am indifferent about putting the two meetings
together, makes sense not to fly twice.
cheers SP
On 2017-07-28 18:30, Rafik Dammak wrote:
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I am among those who are not really supporting holding another
intersessional meeting next year. We are not doing any serious review
and trying to improve it but just carrying on because we got a budget.
if the interesessional will be organized anyway, I think it would
make sense to hold it in the same week with the Council planning
meeting. that means 1 travel less for councilors at least.
Best,
Rafik
2017-07-28 19:57 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"><mailto:icann@ferdeline.com></a>>:
Thanks for sharing this, Stephanie, and for inviting our feedback.
I think the two meetings should be held separately at different
times of the year, as they serve different purposes and cater to
different audiences [with some overlap].
I understand that ICANN staff try only to travel during business
hours, but some of our participants might find it easier to be
able to travel to a meeting over a weekend and to have the
meeting commence on a Sunday. I am not sure what others think
about this suggestion, particularly those on the GNSO Council who
would be impacted here, but just putting that idea out there...
For the GNSO Council Strategic Planning Meeting, it makes sense
to me to have this in Los Angeles given it is the closest ICANN
office for the majority of the likely participants.
For the Intersessional (which I think should continue, though I
understand that is not a view held by all) I also think Los
Angeles makes a lot of sense, though I understand the participant
profiles vary, and it may be very difficult for many of the
Intersessional participants to travel to the United States. Based
on the participant profiles of everyone who attended the
Intersessional this year, I believe Mexico City would be much
easier for everyone to travel to [anyone with an existing US or
Canadian visa does not need a visa to enter Mexico, and for many
in Latin America, Mexico’s immigration policies are very fair].
It would also be a rather economical choice.
Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline
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Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: YOUR FEEDBACK REQUESTED: Planning for
2018 NCPH Intersessional & GNSO Council strategic planning sessions
Local Time: July 27, 2017 9:37 PM
UTC Time: July 27, 2017 8:37 PM
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>
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To: ncsg-pc <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is"><mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is></a>>
Perhaps we ought to discuss this on the broader list as well,
just forwarding....
Stephanie
-------- Forwarded Message --------
Subject:
YOUR FEEDBACK REQUESTED: Planning for 2018 NCPH Intersessional
& GNSO Council strategic planning sessions
Date:
Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:22:29 +0000
From:
Mary Wong <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><mary.wong@icann.org></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"><mailto:mary.wong@icann.org></a>
To:
Phil Corwin <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"><psc@vlaw-dc.com></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"><mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com></a>, Susan
Kawaguchi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com"><susankpolicy@gmail.com></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com"><mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com></a>, Heather Forrest
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"><mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com></a>,
icannlists <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:icannlists@winston.com"><icannlists@winston.com></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:icannlists@winston.com"><mailto:icannlists@winston.com></a>, Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"><wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"><mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de></a>, Anthony Harris
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anthonyrharris@gmail.com"><anthonyrharris@gmail.com></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:anthonyrharris@gmail.com"><mailto:anthonyrharris@gmail.com></a>,
Rafik Dammak <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"><rafik.dammak@gmail.com></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"><mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com></a>, Milan, Stefania
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu"><Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu"><mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu></a>, Marilia
Maciel <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com"><mariliamaciel@gmail.com></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com"><mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com></a>, Stephanie Perrin
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"><mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca></a>, Martin Pablo Silva
Valent <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com"><mpsilvavalent@gmail.com></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com"><mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com></a>, Johan Helsingius
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:julf@julf.com"><julf@julf.com></a> <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:julf@julf.com"><mailto:julf@julf.com></a>
CC:
Benedetta Rossi <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org"><benedetta.rossi@icann.org></a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org"><mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org></a>
Dear Heather, Susan, Marilia, Stefania, Stephanie, Phil, Rafik,
Tony, Julf, Wolf-Ulrich, Paul and Martin,
I am writing to seek your input as we (ICANN staff) begin
working with the GNSO Council leadership and the NCPH leadership
to plan two face-to-face meetings that have been approved for FY
2018. One is a 2-3 day strategic planning session for the GNSO
Council (approved as a pilot project for FY2018), and the other
is the periodic NCPH Intersessional meeting.
As the application for the GNSO Council’s strategic planning
meeting had indicated that this might take place in January
2018, and as the NCPH Intersessional has traditionally taken
place in January or February, staff would like to know if you
believe it will be _preferable for these two meetings to take
place concurrently, such that both meetings can occur within the
space of a single week in the same location, or if you think it
will be better to plan them as two separate meetings taking
place at different times in the year_.
You may be interested to know that the ICANN process for
face-to-face meeting planning has been updated (as of June
2017), such that meeting requests for location, dates and travel
now have to be sent in several months ahead of time. For the
GNSO Council strategic planning meeting, the budget approval
requires an ICANN office location, with preference for Los
Angeles – hence, if you think running both meetings concurrently
in the same week is better, this will most probably mean that
the NCPH Intersessional will take place in Los Angeles as well.
We understand that, as these events are going to take place in
calendar year 2018, several of you may no longer be on the
Council by that time. In addition, decisions and programming
concerning the NCPH Intersessional is the responsibility of the
NCPH leadership and not the GNSO Council. However, for planning
purposes we thought it appropriate to seek as much input as
possible from those community members who may be most affected
by the dates and timing, and so we hope you are able to provide
us with your opinion as to which option is preferred.
Thanks and cheers
Mary
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