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    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I am not enthusiastic
          about more meetings either.  And I am not keen on travelling
          to the US.....Los Angeles takes way longer than Iceland, for
          me, with way more hassle.  I have never been to Mexico, so I
          dont know how hard that is.  Am indifferent about putting the
          two meetings together, makes sense not to fly twice.</font></font></p>
    <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers SP</font></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-07-28 18:30, Rafik Dammak
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Hi,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">I am among those who are not really
          supporting holding another intersessional meeting next year.
          We are not doing any serious review and trying to improve it
          but just carrying on because we got a budget.</div>
        <div class="gmail_extra">if the interesessional will be
          organized anyway, I think it would make sense to hold it in
          the same week with the Council planning meeting. that means 1
          travel less for councilors at least. </div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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        <div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">2017-07-28 19:57 GMT+09:00 Ayden
            Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a
                href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank"
                moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br>
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              <div>Thanks for sharing this, Stephanie, and for inviting
                our feedback.<br>
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              <div>I think the two meetings should be held separately at
                different times of the year, as they serve different
                purposes and cater to different audiences [with some
                overlap].<br>
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              <div>I understand that ICANN staff try only to travel
                during business hours, but some of our participants
                might find it easier to be able to travel to a meeting
                over a weekend and to have the meeting commence on a
                Sunday. I am not sure what others think about this
                suggestion, particularly those on the GNSO Council who
                would be impacted here, but just putting that idea out
                there...<br>
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              <div>For the GNSO Council Strategic Planning Meeting, it
                makes sense to me to have this in Los Angeles given it
                is the closest ICANN office for the majority of the
                likely participants.<br>
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              <div>For the Intersessional (which I think should
                continue, though I understand that is not a view held by
                all) I also think Los Angeles makes a lot of sense,
                though I understand the participant profiles vary, and
                it may be very difficult for many of the Intersessional
                participants to travel to the United States. Based on
                the participant profiles of everyone who attended the
                Intersessional this year, I believe Mexico City would be
                much easier for everyone to travel to [anyone with an
                existing US or Canadian visa does not need a visa to
                enter Mexico, and for many in Latin America, Mexico’s
                immigration policies are very fair]. It would also be a
                rather economical choice.<br>
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                  <div>Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline <br>
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                    <div>-------- Original Message --------<br>
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                    <div>Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: YOUR FEEDBACK
                      REQUESTED: Planning for 2018 NCPH Intersessional
                      & GNSO Council strategic planning sessions<br>
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                    <div>Local Time: July 27, 2017 9:37 PM<br>
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                    <div>UTC Time: July 27, 2017 8:37 PM<br>
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                    <div>From: <a
                        href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto<wbr>.ca</a><br>
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                    <div>To: ncsg-pc <<a
                        href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br>
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                    <p><span
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                        style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span
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                          style="font-family:Lucida Grande">Perhaps we
                          ought to discuss this on the broader list as
                          well, just forwarding....</span></span><br>
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                        style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span
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                          style="font-family:Lucida Grande">Stephanie</span></span><br>
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                      <div>-------- Forwarded Message --------<br>
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                            <td>YOUR FEEDBACK REQUESTED: Planning for
                              2018 NCPH Intersessional & GNSO
                              Council strategic planning sessions<br>
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                            <td>Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:22:29 +0000<br>
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                            <td>Mary Wong <a
                                href="mailto:mary.wong@icann.org"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><mary.wong@icann.org></a><br>
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                            <th valign="BASELINE" align="RIGHT"
                              nowrap="nowrap">To:<br>
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                            <td>Phil Corwin <a
                                href="mailto:psc@vlaw-dc.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><psc@vlaw-dc.com></a>,
                              Susan Kawaguchi <a
                                href="mailto:susankpolicy@gmail.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><susankpolicy@gmail.com></a>,
                              Heather Forrest <a
                                href="mailto:haforrestesq@gmail.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><haforrestesq@gmail.com></a>,
                              icannlists <a
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                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><icannlists@winston.com></a>,
                              Wolf-Ulrich.Knoben <a
                                href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de"
class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.d<wbr>e></a>,
                              Anthony Harris <a
                                href="mailto:anthonyrharris@gmail.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><anthonyrharris@gmail.com></a>,
                              Rafik Dammak <a
                                href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><rafik.dammak@gmail.com></a>,
                              Milan, Stefania <a
                                href="mailto:Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><Stefania.Milan@EUI.eu></a>,
                              Marilia Maciel <a
                                href="mailto:mariliamaciel@gmail.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><mariliamaciel@gmail.com></a>,
                              Stephanie Perrin <a
                                href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca"
class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca></a>,
                              Martin Pablo Silva Valent <a
                                href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><mpsilvavalent@gmail.com></a>,
                              Johan Helsingius <a
                                href="mailto:julf@julf.com"
                                class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><julf@julf.com></a><br>
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                            <td>Benedetta Rossi <a
                                href="mailto:benedetta.rossi@icann.org"
class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                                rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><benedetta.rossi@icann.org></a><br>
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                            style="font-size:11pt">Dear Heather, Susan,
                            Marilia, Stefania, Stephanie, Phil, Rafik,
                            Tony, Julf, Wolf-Ulrich, Paul and Martin,</span><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                            style="font-size:11pt">I am writing to seek
                            your input as we (ICANN staff) begin working
                            with the GNSO Council leadership and the
                            NCPH leadership to plan two face-to-face
                            meetings that have been approved for FY
                            2018. One is a 2-3 day strategic planning
                            session for the GNSO Council (approved as a
                            pilot project for FY2018), and the other is
                            the periodic NCPH Intersessional meeting.</span><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                            style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071size"
                            style="font-size:11pt">As the application
                            for the GNSO Council’s strategic planning
                            meeting had indicated that this might take
                            place in January 2018, and as the NCPH
                            Intersessional has traditionally taken place
                            in January or February, staff would like to
                            know if you believe it will be <u>preferable
                              for these two meetings to take place
                              concurrently, such that both meetings can
                              occur within the space of a single week in
                              the same location, or if you think it will
                              be better to plan them as two separate
                              meetings taking place at different times
                              in the year</u>.</span><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                            style="font-size:11pt"> </span><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071size"
                            style="font-size:11pt">You may be interested
                            to know that the ICANN process for
                            face-to-face meeting planning has been
                            updated (as of June 2017), such that meeting
                            requests for location, dates and travel now
                            have to be sent in several months ahead of
                            time. For the GNSO Council strategic
                            planning meeting, the budget approval
                            requires an ICANN office location, with
                            preference for Los Angeles – hence, if you
                            think running both meetings concurrently in
                            the same week is better, this will most
                            probably mean that the NCPH Intersessional
                            will take place in Los Angeles as well.</span><br>
                        </p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                            class="m_-3242062467228255210m_336334139642242071size"
                            style="font-size:11pt">We understand that,
                            as these events are going to take place in
                            calendar year 2018, several of you may no
                            longer be on the Council by that time. In
                            addition, decisions and programming
                            concerning the NCPH Intersessional is the
                            responsibility of the NCPH leadership and
                            not the GNSO Council. However, for planning
                            purposes we thought it appropriate to seek
                            as much input as possible from those
                            community members who may be most affected
                            by the dates and timing, and so we hope you
                            are able to provide us with your opinion as
                            to which option is preferred.</span><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                            style="font-size:11pt">Thanks and cheers</span><br>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span
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                            style="font-size:11pt">Mary</span><br>
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