<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Ayden,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">the draft was shared for a while and get several inputs for NCSG members. I didn't see any objection. I think it is ready to be submitted if you can share the latest clean version.<br>
<br>Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-07-07 20:09 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Thanks. So we now have support from Matthew, Stephanie, Rafik, Poncelet, and myself. We also have support to submit this comment from observers Avri and Kathy. The submission deadline is in a few hours time; Tapani, Marilia, Martin, and Stefi, have you any concerns or suggested edits, or can I go ahead and submit this comment?<br></div><div><br></div><div class="m_2046204923842234955protonmail_signature_block"><div class="m_2046204923842234955protonmail_signature_block-user"><div>Best wishes, Ayden <br></div></div><div class="m_2046204923842234955protonmail_signature_block-proton m_2046204923842234955protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div><br></div><blockquote class="m_2046204923842234955protonmail_quote" type="cite"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fw: Re: [DRAFT] Potential NCSG Comment on ICANN Procedure for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law<br></div><div>Local Time: July 6, 2017 6:03 PM<br></div><div>UTC Time: July 6, 2017 5:03 PM<br></div><div>From: <a href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com" target="_blank">matthew@intpolicy.com</a><br></div><div>To: <a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>Ayden - thanks for shepherding this along. I think it is good to go also.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>On 06/07/2017 17:26, avri doria wrote:<br></div><div>> (observer)<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> thanks for making the latest changes.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> i think it is fine to go and getting better.<br></div><div>><br></div><div>> avri<br></div><div>><br></div><div>><br></div><div>> On 06-Jul-17 08:22, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br></div><div>>> The deadline for the submission of this comment is tomorrow, therefore<br></div><div>>> your urgent review is needed. Any questions or concerns please let me<br></div><div>>> know. Thank you!<br></div><div>>><br></div><div>>> - Ayden<br></div><div>>><br></div><div>>>> -------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>>>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fw: Re: [DRAFT] Potential NCSG Comment on ICANN<br></div><div>>>> Procedure for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law<br></div><div>>>> Local Time: July 3, 2017 5:00 PM<br></div><div>>>> UTC Time: July 3, 2017 4:00 PM<br></div><div>>>> From: <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a><br></div><div>>>> To: ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br></div><div>>>><br></div><div>>>> A reminder, please, that we need feedback on this comment re:<br></div><div>>>> handling WHOIS conflicts with privacy law. Thank you.<br></div><div>>>><br></div><div>>>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA-O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lA-<wbr>O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_<wbr>5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a><br></div><div>>>><br></div><div>>>> Best wishes, Ayden<br></div><div>>>><br></div><div>>>><br></div><div>>>>> -------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>>>>> Subject: Fw: Re: [DRAFT] Potential NCSG Comment on ICANN Procedure<br></div><div>>>>> for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law<br></div><div>>>>> Local Time: June 30, 2017 12:55 PM<br></div><div>>>>> UTC Time: June 30, 2017 11:55 AM<br></div><div>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a><br></div><div>>>>> To: ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br></div><div>>>>><br></div><div>>>>> Would be great to receive some feedback from EDRi on this comment.<br></div><div>>>>> The submission deadline for this comment is in seven days time, and<br></div><div>>>>> it still needs work. Please see the Google Doc here<br></div><div>>>>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA-O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lA-<wbr>O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_<wbr>5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>>;<br></div><div>>>>> your suggested edits are warmly welcomed, especially in regards to<br></div><div>>>>> the recommendation(s). Thanks very much!<br></div><div>>>>><br></div><div>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden<br></div><div>>>>><br></div><div>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DRAFT] Potential NCSG Comment on ICANN Procedure for<br></div><div>>>>>> Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law<br></div><div>>>>>> Local Time: June 30, 2017 1:53 PM<br></div><div>>>>>> UTC Time: June 30, 2017 11:53 AM<br></div><div>>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a><br></div><div>>>>>> To: Maryant Fernandez Perez <<a href="mailto:maryant.fernandez-perez@EDRI.ORG" target="_blank">maryant.fernandez-perez@EDRI.<wbr>ORG</a>><br></div><div>>>>>> <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a> <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><wbr>><br></div><div>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>> Maryant, hi-<br></div><div>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>> Thank you very much for your email. I am pleased to hear that EDRi<br></div><div>>>>>> may be able to provide input into this comment on handling WHOIS<br></div><div>>>>>> conflicts with privacy laws. Our Policy Committee is agile, so if<br></div><div>>>>>> we receive comments or suggested edits up to 72 hours before the<br></div><div>>>>>> comment submission deadline of 7 July 23:59 UTC, we should be able<br></div><div>>>>>> to review them. Thanks again!<br></div><div>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>> Best wishes,<br></div><div>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div>>>>>> <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a> <<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/<wbr>ferdeline</a>><br></div><div>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [DRAFT] Potential NCSG Comment on ICANN Procedure for<br></div><div>>>>>>> Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law<br></div><div>>>>>>> Local Time: June 28, 2017 1:11 PM<br></div><div>>>>>>> UTC Time: June 28, 2017 11:11 AM<br></div><div>>>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:maryant.fernandez-perez@EDRI.ORG" target="_blank">maryant.fernandez-perez@EDRI.<wbr>ORG</a><br></div><div>>>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br></div><div>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> Hi,<br></div><div>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> I"ve set our own internal deadline for this Friday, 30 June COB.<br></div><div>>>>>>> I hope to be able to get back to you by then. I can"t promise<br></div><div>>>>>>> anything at this stage because it wasn"t foreseen in our work<br></div><div>>>>>>> schedule, but I"ll try my best.<br></div><div>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> Thanks,<br></div><div>>>>>>> Maryant<br></div><div>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> Le 28/06/17 à 13:09, Rafik Dammak a écrit :<br></div><div>>>>>>>> Hi Maryant,<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> thanks for message, it will be great to get more feedback<br></div><div>>>>>>>> any idea by when you can get input from EDRI members?<br></div><div>>>>>>>> btw there was a public session yesterday about GDPR and its<br></div><div>>>>>>>> impacts <a href="https://schedule.icann.org/event/B3ot/gdpr-and-its-potential-impact-looking-for-practical-solutions" target="_blank">https://schedule.icann.org/<wbr>event/B3ot/gdpr-and-its-<wbr>potential-impact-looking-for-<wbr>practical-solutions</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Best,<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Rafik<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> 2017-06-28 19:46 GMT+09:00 Maryant Fernandez Perez<br></div><div>>>>>>>> <<a href="mailto:maryant.fernandez-perez@edri.org" target="_blank">maryant.fernandez-perez@edri.<wbr>org</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:maryant.fernandez-perez@edri.org" target="_blank">maryant.fernandez-<wbr>perez@edri.org</a>>>:<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Hi Ayden & all,<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Some of EDRi members may be willing to provide input, as in<br></div><div>>>>>>>> EDRi we have extensively worked on the GDPR and in its<br></div><div>>>>>>>> implementation.<br></div><div>>>>>>>> I"m aware the the official deadline is 7 July.<br></div><div>>>>>>>> What"s the last internal deadline to comment on it?<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Thanks and best regards,<br></div><div>>>>>>>> Maryant<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> --<br></div><div>>>>>>>> Maryant Fernandez Perez<br></div><div>>>>>>>> Senior Policy Advisor<br></div><div>>>>>>>> European Digital Rights (EDRi)<br></div><div>>>>>>>> 20 Rue Belliard<br></div><div>>>>>>>> 1040 Brussels (Belgium)<br></div><div>>>>>>>> <a href="https://edri.org" target="_blank">https://edri.org</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Tel: <a href="tel:+32%202%20274%2025%2070" value="+3222742570" target="_blank">+32 2 274 25 70</a> <tel:+32%202%20274%2025%2070><br></div><div>>>>>>>> PGP: D59A 1D3F 50CC 231B DCFE 3F2C 92FA 6F29 3D74 0B42<br></div><div>>>>>>>> @edri | @maryantfp<br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Donate to EDRi! <a href="https://edri.org/donate/" target="_blank">https://edri.org/donate/</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the EDRi-gram, our fortnightly roundup of digital rights news! <a href="http://edri.org/newsletters/" target="_blank">http://edri.org/newsletters/</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>> Le 14/06/17 à 00:05, Ayden Férdeline a écrit :<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> Hello all,<br></div><div>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>> I have revised our draft comment on the effectiveness of the<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> updated ICANN Procedure for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> Privacy Law. Paragraphs 3 and 7, in particular, are<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> new. Your review of and feedback on this proposed comment is<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> warmly welcomed. The submission deadline is 7 July, but I am<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> hoping we may be able to finalise the comment before this<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> date, given we have ICANN 59 approaching in just over a<br></div><div>>>>>>>>> week"s time. Thank you!<br></div><div>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA-O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lA-<wbr>O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_<wbr>5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA-O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lA-<wbr>O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_<wbr>5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>> Best wishes, Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> -------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [DRAFT] Potential NCSG Comment on ICANN Procedure<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> Local Time: May 13, 2017 8:36 PM<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> UTC Time: May 13, 2017 7:36 PM<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> From: <a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" target="_blank">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:icann@FERDELINE.COM" target="_blank">icann@FERDELINE.COM</a>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> To: <a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.SYR.EDU" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@LISTSERV.<wbr>SYR.EDU</a>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> Dear colleagues,<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> I have drafted a comment on behalf of the NCSG on the<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> effectiveness of the updated ICANN Procedure<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/whois-privacy-law-2017-05-03-en" target="_blank">https://www.icann.org/public-<wbr>comments/whois-privacy-law-<wbr>2017-05-03-en</a>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> for Handling WHOIS Conflicts with Privacy Law. I warmly<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> welcome your comments, suggestions, and edits so that we<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> can strengthen this comment.<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA-O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lA-<wbr>O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_<wbr>5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lA-O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=sharing" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lA-<wbr>O2jiPv5JMoCYpG5HD0S_<wbr>5O3yaiYkoRvfll3YsTX4/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> The deadline for submission of comments on this topic is in<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> 30 days, on 12 June. I would like to get this to the Policy<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> Committee to review one week earlier, on 5 June, so I<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> kindly ask that you make your comments before this time if<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> you can please. Thanks!<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> Best wishes,<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> Ayden Férdeline<br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> <a href="http://linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank">linkedin.com/in/ferdeline</a><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>> <<a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/ferdeline" target="_blank">http://www.linkedin.com/in/<wbr>ferdeline</a>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> -- <br></div><div>>>>>>> Maryant Fernandez Perez<br></div><div>>>>>>> Senior Policy Advisor<br></div><div>>>>>>> European Digital Rights (EDRi)<br></div><div>>>>>>> 20 Rue Belliard<br></div><div>>>>>>> 1040 Brussels (Belgium)<br></div><div>>>>>>> <a href="https://edri.org" target="_blank">https://edri.org</a><br></div><div>>>>>>> Tel: <a href="tel:+32%202%20274%2025%2070" value="+3222742570" target="_blank">+32 2 274 25 70</a><br></div><div>>>>>>> PGP: D59A 1D3F 50CC 231B DCFE 3F2C 92FA 6F29 3D74 0B42<br></div><div>>>>>>> @edri | @maryantfp<br></div><div>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> Donate to EDRi! <a href="https://edri.org/donate/" target="_blank">https://edri.org/donate/</a><br></div><div>>>>>>><br></div><div>>>>>>> Subscribe to the EDRi-gram, our fortnightly roundup of digital rights news! <a href="http://edri.org/newsletters/" target="_blank">http://edri.org/newsletters/</a><br></div><div>>>>>>><br></div><div>>><br></div><div>>><br></div><div>>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div>>> NCSG-PC mailing list<br></div><div>>> <a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div>>> <a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br></div><div>><br></div><div>> ---<br></div><div>> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.<br></div><div>> <a href="https://www.avast.com/antivirus" target="_blank">https://www.avast.com/<wbr>antivirus</a><br></div><div>><br></div><div>> ______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div>> NCSG-PC mailing list<br></div><div>> <a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div>> <a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br></div><div>><br></div><div>><br></div><div>> ---<br></div><div>> This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.<br></div><div>> <a href="http://www.avg.com" target="_blank">http://www.avg.com</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>-- <br></div><div>Matthew Shears<br></div><div><a href="mailto:matthew@intpolicy.com" target="_blank">matthew@intpolicy.com</a><br></div><div><a href="tel:+44%207712%20472987" value="+447712472987" target="_blank">+447712472987</a><br></div><div>Skype:mshears<br></div><div><br></div><div>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br></div><div>NCSG-PC mailing list<br></div><div><a href="mailto:NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">NCSG-PC@lists.ncsg.is</a><br></div><div><a href="https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/listinfo/ncsg-pc" target="_blank">https://lists.ncsg.is/mailman/<wbr>listinfo/ncsg-pc</a><br></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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