<div dir="auto"><div>Hi Ed,<div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thanks for the edits, waiting for other to go through and see if other changes are needed or if they are fine with the current version. We can send the comment this weekend after that.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Rafik </div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On May 20, 2017 7:11 AM, "Edward Morris" <<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span style="font-family:'Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Grande',Sans-Serif;font-size:14px"><div>Hi Rafik, Ayden, Stephanie, all,</div>
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<div>I just went into the document and tried to soften the language a bit: unacceptable became inadvisable, I deleted a few of the harsher and perhaps more perhaps unintentionally incendiary lines. I'm at work so it's a bit difficult at the moment for me to do much more - I'd certainly welcome further edits along those lines, if folks felt they were needed.</div>
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<b>Sent</b>: Friday, May 19, 2017 10:56 PM<br>
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<div>Hi Ayden,</div>
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<div>Thanks,</div>
<div>I saw the comments but they look like questions for me and I cannot really respond to them. I think that they were made by Stephanie, maybe she can propose some edits there? </div>
<div>I am happy to delay and hold for few hours the submission if we can get some wording and edits to be considered to change the tone. </div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-20 6:49 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:
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<div>Just a quick clarification; I support the sentiment of the comment, but as Stephanie alluded to, think it would be better if we are slightly more tactful in the comment that we send through. I also note that an anonymous commenter left some useful comments in the Google Doc. </div>
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On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:45 pm, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the comment, <br>
I can understand we have support from Ed, Matt, Ayden, Stephanie and myself for submitting the comment with no objection. also, support from Avri as an observer. I interpret this as having consensus to send the draft. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">if there is no strong objections in next hours, I will submit the comment on behalf of NCSG (document attached).</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-20 6:27 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoront<wbr>o.ca</a>></span>:
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I think it is worded too strongly, but I will support it.</font></font></p>
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<div class="m_1551923193837247666m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-05-19 16:52, Rafik Dammak wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">so I see there is more endorsement for opposing the deferral and we have the new draft here <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1YnNXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/d<wbr>ocument/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1Yn<wbr>NXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit</a></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">can you please express your position quickly so we can submit the comment in due time. I will also share the new draft in NCSG list.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-19 23:39 GMT+09:00 avri doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" target="_blank">avri@apc.org</a>></span>:
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i also do not support postponement.<br>
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<span class="m_1551923193837247666m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">On 19-May-17 04:51, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
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> My initial reaction is, I do not support the postponement of mandatory<br>
> Reviews. If there is a compelling reason for why this should happen, I<br>
> would be interested in hearing it.<br>
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> Many thanks,<br>
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> Ayden<br>
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>> -------- Original Message --------<br>
>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral /<br>
>> Review&Endorsment<br>
>> Local Time: May 19, 2017 12:52 AM<br>
>> UTC Time: May 18, 2017 11:52 PM<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> To: ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> I am sharing here the draft made by Arshad about ccNSO review<br>
>> deferral <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxF<wbr>qXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a></span><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr>ent/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx<wbr>FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>>.<br>
<span class="m_1551923193837247666m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>><br>
>> I understand that Ed objected to the content and explained his point<br>
>> of view on NCSG mailing list<br>
>> <a href="https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee80ad7.1705" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://listserv.syr.edu/scrip<wbr>ts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee8<wbr>0ad7.1705</a> .<br>
>><br>
>> I need to hear from others about their positions and also any<br>
>> suggestion on how to accommodate the 2 opposite views in the NCSG<br>
>> comment i.e what can be the consensual position for NCSG here.<br>
>><br>
>> the deadline for submission is also the 19th May and so we have less<br>
>> than 24hours to review and suggest a way to move forward.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>><br>
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>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>><br>
>> Date: 2017-05-17 11:38 GMT+09:00<br>
>> Subject: Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral / Consultation<br>
>> To: "<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a></span><br>
<span class="m_1551923193837247666m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.<wbr>syr.edu</a>>"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.<wbr>syr.edu</a>>>, ncsg-pc<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><wbr>><br>
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>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> Arshad kindly drafted and shared his draft for NCSG<br>
>> comment <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxF<wbr>qXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a></span><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr>ent/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx<wbr>FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>>.<br>
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>> Please review it, add your comments, express your support or not in<br>
>> order to assess what we have the common NCSG position on this topics<br>
>> and submitting in time. the deadline for submission is this Friday<br>
>> 19th May.<br>
>><br>
>> Best.<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
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