<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div>Hi Ayden,</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div>I saw the comments but they look like questions for me and I cannot really respond to them. I think that they were made by Stephanie, maybe she can propose some edits there? </div><div>I am happy to delay and hold for few hours the submission if we can get some wording and edits to be considered to change the tone. </div><div><br></div></div></div>Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-20 6:49 GMT+09:00 Ayden Férdeline <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com" target="_blank">icann@ferdeline.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>Hi Rafik,</div>
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<div>Just a quick clarification; I support the sentiment of the comment, but as Stephanie alluded to, think it would be better if we are slightly more tactful in the comment that we send through. I also note that an anonymous commenter left some
useful comments in the Google Doc. </div>
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<div>Best wishes,</div>
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<div id="m_4830783447024047954protonmail_mobile_signature_block">Ayden Férdeline
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</div>On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 10:45 pm, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Hi Stephanie,</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Thanks for the comment,
<br>I can understand we have support from Ed, Matt, Ayden, Stephanie and myself for submitting the comment with no objection. also, support from Avri as an observer. I interpret this as having consensus to send the draft. </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">if there is no strong objections in next hours, I will submit the comment on behalf of NCSG (document attached).</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-20 6:27 GMT+09:00 Stephanie Perrin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" target="_blank">stephanie.perrin@mail.<wbr>utoronto.ca</a>></span>:
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too strongly, but I will support it.</font></font>
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<div class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-05-19 16:52, Rafik Dammak wrote:
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<div class="gmail_extra">Hi all,</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">so I see there is more endorsement for opposing the deferral and we have the new draft here <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1YnNXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/d<wbr>ocument/d/1RILiprppZVCC2J9K1Yn<wbr>NXWU2wsMgqVPjDg1rDrWoQl4/edit</a>
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<div class="gmail_extra">can you please express your position quickly so we can submit the comment in due time. I will also share the new draft in NCSG list.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2017-05-19 23:39 GMT+09:00 avri doria
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<br>i also do not support postponement.
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<br>avri
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On 19-May-17 04:51, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br>
> Hi,<br>
><br>
> My initial reaction is, I do not support the
postponement of mandatory<br>
> Reviews. If there is a compelling reason for why
this should happen, I<br>
> would be interested in hearing it.<br>
><br>
> Many thanks,<br>
><br>
> Ayden<br>
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>> -------- Original Message --------<br>
>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Draft comment of CCNSO
review deferral /<br>
>> Review&Endorsment<br>
>> Local Time: May 19, 2017 12:52 AM<br>
>> UTC Time: May 18, 2017 11:52 PM<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> To: ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> I am sharing here the draft made by Arshad
about ccNSO review<br>
>> deferral <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxF<wbr>qXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a><br>
</span>>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr>ent/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx<wbr>FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>>.
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<span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>><br>
>> I understand that Ed objected to the content
and explained his point<br>
>> of view on NCSG mailing list<br>
>> <a href="https://listserv.syr.edu/scripts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee80ad7.1705" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://listserv.syr.edu/scrip<wbr>ts/wa.exe?A2=NCSG-DISCUSS;9ee8<wbr>0ad7.1705</a>
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>><br>
>> I need to hear from others about their
positions and also any<br>
>> suggestion on how to accommodate the 2 opposite
views in the NCSG<br>
>> comment i.e what can be the consensual position
for NCSG here.<br>
>><br>
>> the deadline for submission is also the 19th
May and so we have less<br>
>> than 24hours to review and suggest a way to
move forward.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>><br>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
</span><span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>> From: *Rafik Dammak*
<<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>><br>
>> Date: 2017-05-17 11:38 GMT+09:00<br>
>> Subject: Draft comment of CCNSO review deferral
/ Consultation<br>
>> To: "<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a><br>
</span><span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.<wbr>syr.edu</a>>"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.syr.edu" target="_blank">NCSG-DISCUSS@listserv.<wbr>syr.edu</a>>>,
ncsg-pc<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is" target="_blank">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><wbr>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi all,<br>
>><br>
>> Arshad kindly drafted and shared his draft for
NCSG<br>
>> comment <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docume<wbr>nt/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxF<wbr>qXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=s<wbr>haring</a><br>
</span>>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXxFqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr>ent/d/1ZZOFEBt1xbRblheuIvBdSXx<wbr>FqXiEBiesFflka6Rtk7I/edit?usp=<wbr>sharing</a>>.
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<span class="m_4830783447024047954m_-5436330229012445817gmail-">>><br>
>> Please review it, add your comments, express
your support or not in<br>
>> order to assess what we have the common NCSG
position on this topics<br>
>> and submitting in time. the deadline for
submission is this Friday<br>
>> 19th May.<br>
>><br>
>> Best.<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
><br>
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