<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I think we can make the voting period shorter, probably not over 3 days, while confirming that councilors can make it.</div><div class="gmail_extra">I think we already missed the deadline, the 3rd May deadline is for the GNSO to notify the empowered community and we should have confirmed the election at GNSO council at the last confcall in 20th April (attached the draft timeline that stirred the discussion) and the next GNSO council call is scheduled for the 18th May. I assume because of that the term will start later after the AGM and not at the end of AGM as usual. </div><div class="gmail_extra">I am not sure if we need a motion to be submitted to GNSO council for election confirmation, but the deadline for submitting is Monday 8th May.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Rafik</div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-04-29 3:36 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Dear PC,<br>
<br>
Unfortunately CSG is apparently unable to agree on this in time. I<br>
have no reason to assume they actually object but they need to get<br>
their ExComs to agree and it takes time. And if we want to have a vote<br>
with email ballots it should've been started today to have acceptably<br>
long voting period and get results by Wednesday.<br>
<br>
I can think of three options now:<br>
<br>
(1) Make do with less time for voting. We could try to get ICANN staff<br>
(meaning Maryam) to start it during the weekend. Everything else aside,<br>
that still requires CSG to agree quickly so I don't think this'll fly.<br>
<br>
(2) Have an NCPH councillor call on Tuesday (or maybe Wednesday<br>
morning would work) and vote there (open vote). If we can find a<br>
timeslot that's good for enough councillors this could work.<br>
<br>
(3) Miss the deadline. I'm not sure anything really bad would happen,<br>
although it would be embarrassing.<br>
<br>
Opinions?<br>
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On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 04:54:19PM +0300, Tapani Tarvainen (<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>) wrote:<br>
><br>
> Yeah we should've had a proper process with discussion<br>
> and all, but time is running out - deadline is 3 May.<br>
><br>
> Suggestion:<br>
><br>
> Let's have a vote with Matt and Markus and NotA on ballot,<br>
> NCPH councillors (CSG, NCSG & NCA) voting, starting ASAP,<br>
> vote to end by 2 May, 8 votes required for election.<br>
><br>
> Any objections if I propose that to CSG?<br>
><br>
> As to your question: CSG councillors vote as per their constituencies'<br>
> decisions, and you can see those positions in Greg's mail I forwarded.<br>
><br>
> Tapani<br>
><br>
> On Apr 26 08:45, William Drake (<a href="mailto:wjdrake@gmail.com" target="_blank">wjdrake@gmail.com</a>) wrote:<br>
><br>
> > Hi<br>
> ><br>
> > Here’s another observer who thinks such things should be done through a proper process entailing a) internal discussion and then b) vote.<br>
> ><br>
> > Question: do CSG Councilors just do whatever they like on this like us or are their positions agreed within their respective constituencies?<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks<br>
> ><br>
> > Bill<br>
> ><br>
> > > On Apr 26, 2017, at 00:39, farzaneh badii <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hello Rafik<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Observer speaking, but wanted to revive this thread. I agree with you that we should go to formal vote and include the NCA.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Farzaneh<br>
> > ><br>
> > > On Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 7:51 PM, Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
> > > Hi all,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > with the response from CSG about their nomination, we should move forward in this process:<br>
> > > - we agreed previously to nominate Mathew and Markus as candidates from NCSG. I think we can confirm that and send the names to CSG.<br>
> > > - we have to agree on the process for this time: running. I think we rejected before any kind of negotiation to agree on candidate and we insisted on having a vote anyway.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > copying here what was suggested from Greg:<br>
> > ><br>
> > > "1. If it's possible for the NCSG to come up with a unified view on this topic, and if that view is the same as CSG, Matthew could be nominated by acclamation, without the need for a vote or a call.<br>
> > > 2. If that's not possible, then we can do either:<br>
> > > (a) a call to either (i) see if a nomination can be resolved on the call, or (ii) to resolve the process from this point forward.<br>
> > > (b) an election, but then we need to decide who is voting, and under what terms.<br>
> > > "<br>
> > > I don't see any harm to have a call but I think we should go to formal vote regardless of that and we need to include Julf as NCA to NCPH.<br>
> > > agreeing on a long-term process seems unattainable goal but we still have to try to make it.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > comments and suggestions are welcome.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Rafik<br>
> > ><br>
> > > 2017-04-25 2:25 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info" target="_blank">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.<wbr>info</a>>>:<br>
> > > Congratulations, Matthew!<br>
> > ><br>
> > > ----- Forwarded message from Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr>m</a>>> -----<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Subject: CSG Position on Board Seat 14<br>
> > > Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:38:53 -0400<br>
> > > From: Greg Shatan <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr>m</a>>><br>
> > > To: Tapani Tarvainen <<a href="mailto:tapani.tarvainen@effi.org" target="_blank">tapani.tarvainen@effi.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tapani.tarvainen@effi.org" target="_blank">tapani.tarvainen@effi.<wbr>org</a>>>, "<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>><br>
> > > Cc: "Wilson, Christopher" <<a href="mailto:cwilson@21cf.com" target="_blank">cwilson@21cf.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:cwilson@21cf.com" target="_blank">cwilson@21cf.com</a>>>, WUKnoben <<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.d<wbr>e</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-online.de" target="_blank">wolf-ulrich.knoben@t-o<wbr>nline.de</a>>><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Dear Tapani and Rafik,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > The IPC, BC, and ISPCP have each deliberated regarding the current<br>
> > > candidates for the NCPH-nominated Board seat. The groups have conferred<br>
> > > and arrived at a common position. Rather than nominating a candidate<br>
> > > chosen by (and possibly from) the CSG at this time, or supporting the<br>
> > > incumbent, the CSG constituencies choose to support Matthew Shears.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > We believe there can be great value in nominating from within the<br>
> > > community. Matthew's efforts and contributions during the transition were<br>
> > > noticed by many in the CSG community. Of course, there should be no<br>
> > > requirement that the nominee be from the community. However, the level of<br>
> > > engagement with and understanding of the community that Matt brings will be<br>
> > > much welcomed. We look forward to supporting Matt in his candidacy and on<br>
> > > the Board, and hope this sets a new paradigm for the NCPH seat.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Best regards,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Greg Shatan<br>
> > > on behalf of the CSG<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > *Greg Shatan *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:(917)%20816-6428><br>
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