<div>Thank you for the kind words, Stephanie, and for the helpful edits. A new draft of the proposed statement is now available. It would be appreciated if everyone could please review it, and propose alternative text if and where applicable.
    This is a very different document than you may have reviewed a few hours ago. </div>
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        </div>On Fri, Mar 24, 2017 at 12:24 am, Stephanie Perrin <<a href="mailto:stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca" class="">stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca</a>> wrote:</div>
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        <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">ANd I forgot to say,
          many thanks to Ayden for slogging away on this!! the report was
          a beast to get through, and pulling this together a hard
          task.  Don't worry I think we can still get a shorter perhaps
          comment if a few of us can pull together and put in some
          comments.  Dont everybody disappear tomorrow on a Friday
          break....</font></font>
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        <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font>
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        <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-23 20:20, Stephanie Perrin wrote:
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            <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I just spent some
            time commenting.  I would suggest that we keep working on
            them, try to develop a more positive tone that indicates our
            shared experience.....but we are not going to get people to
            sign up for drafting comments if we reject them.  Folks are
            always going to be too busy to engage in a fulsome
            discussion.</font></font>
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            <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Happy to hear about
            a better process....but in the meantime, better to fix this
            and boil it down to a couple of pages we can agree on than
            to give up, in my view....</font></font>
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            <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Stephanie</font></font>
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            <p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">PS I think you used
            the old address so I included the new one....</font></font>
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                <p>Hi all</p>
                <p>I am conscious of the impending deadline for these comments (tomorrow).  I recognize that Ayden has put time and thought into proposing comments for NCSG's consideration.   This said, we have had no substantive discussion
                    of these comments and their merit on the list or in the PC, nor have we had, realistically, sufficient time to do so.   Because of this I do not feel that I, as a member of the PC, can endorse these comments for NCSG.   
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                <p>The NCSG PC should have a  better process in place for ensuring that there is time to do so in the future and we will, hopefully, be rectifying this promptly.  
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                <p>Matthew
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                    <p>Hello PC
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                    <p>Teeing this up as comments are due tomorrow.  Please review these suggested inputs carefully.
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                    <p>Related docs can be found here.
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                    <p><a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.icann.org/public-comments/atlarge-review-draft-report-2017-02-01-en">https://www.icann.org/public-comments/atlarge-review-draft-report-2017-02-01-en</a>
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                    <div class="moz-forward-container">Your thoughts/suggestions in the google doc (below) are appreciated asap.
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                        <br />Thanks.
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                                    <td>Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:52:33 -0400</td>
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                                    <td>Ayden Férdeline <a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"><icann@ferdeline.com></a>
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                        <div>Greetings all,
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                            <br />I have drafted up <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing" title="on Google Docs" rel="nofollow">on Google Docs</a>
                            some comments on behalf of the NCSG regarding the Review of the At-Large community. This is a really rough draft, and I'd welcome your feedback on what arguments should be refined, what I might have missed, or what we might want to remain silent on. I'm
                            not happy with it at the moment, but I figured it would be better to get some words down onto paper, and we can refine this together... so please take a read of the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZgdafZs4KBENsb-Kl9GO0l_Bh4gYdQd6F-ORpZPr27s/edit?usp=sharing"
                            title="proposed statement here" rel="nofollow">proposed
                statement here</a>, with the understanding that it's definitely a work-in-progress. And please share your thoughts, either in the document itself or on this mailing list!
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                            <br />Comments are due in three days, so we don't have too long to get this together unfortunately. You can <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/atlarge-review-draft-report-31jan17-en.pdf" title="read the draft report here"
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                the draft report here</a> (PDF link) if you haven't seen it already.
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                            <i>A friendly note to those ALAC members who read the NCSG
                mailing list: this statement is a work-in-progress, it
                has not been endorsed yet by the NCSG Policy Committee,
                and it will likely change between now and the time it is
                submitted (if it is submitted).</i>
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                            <br />Best wishes,</div>
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