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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I was the councillor
who stuck her hand up and insisted on one for NCSG non
allied. I did this for reasons of parity, to ensure that we
maintained the equilibrium with the commercial side of the
house, who wanted three because they knew they would have a
fight....check the transcript of the informal GNSO meeting, it
is now available. However, that is quite separate from having
each constituency decide. We can have a mixed group of NCSG
members, who volunteer from the list, to decide the candidates,
ensuring that there is one from each group.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I would be pleased to
understand why councillors and executives have to make this decision,
as I take the opposite view....there are lots of our members
with experience in evaluating candidates, who could do this
job. We don't have to burden EC members who are already overstretched.</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">cheers Stephanie.</font></font><br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-03-20 15:27, Robin Gross wrote:<br>
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<pre wrap="">This is a decision of the NCSG PC. It is a matter before the NCSG PC. I suggest we allow the NCSG PC to handle this as has been its practice and pursuant to the PC Chair’s guidance.
I would not be in favor of turning NCSG decisions over to constituencies as suggested below. The SG and C have separate roles and responsibilities and this proposal muddies those waters in dangerous and slippery ways.
Thanks,
Robin
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<pre wrap="">On Mar 20, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Tapani Tarvainen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info"><ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info></a> wrote:
Hi Ayden,
First to your second point: there're indeed three slots for NCSG, but
originally it was proposed one per constituency. The argument that won
us the third slot was that we have members who belong to neither as
well as many who belong to both constituencies. It could have been one
per constituency plus one non-constituency-tied slot for NCSG as well,
and I think it was mainly due to lack of time that the decision was
made to leave it up to the NCSG to pick three as a SG.
With that history, I think we should give each constituency at least
one slot in any case (as long as they have a volunteer, and both do).
As for calling for volunteers on the -discuss list, I'm not sure it'd
be necessary, as the nature of the job is such that it's hardly
suitable for newcomers - while there's no formal requirement, I tend
to think councillors and PC members should be preferred. And time is
short. But you are welcome to spread the word in whichever way you
want, of course.
As to who decides, generally the Policy Committee is responsible for
NCSG appointments. In this case we could even let each constituency
formally pick theirs and leave only the 3rd to be decided by the PC,
but if we can agree that there should be a representative from each
constituency, I think it'd be fine to let the PC choose all three.
As for how candidates would be assessed, we have no time to set up
proper formal criteria. As per above, I would suggest
(1) at least one per constituency;
(2) preference given to councillors, PC members and former councillors;
(3) look at the council decision for necessary qualifications.
But in the end we'll just have to discuss alternatives and if
necessary vote within the PC.
Tapani
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 01:05:26PM -0400, Ayden Férdeline (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com">icann@ferdeline.com</a>) wrote:
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<pre wrap="">An internal deadline makes sense - and I'm glad it is still a few days away, as I have heard off-list from one NCUC member that they are considering putting their name forward. I will communicate this internal deadline to them. Might it be worth considering sending a call for nominations to the general NCSG list?
I also note that the three slots are allocated to the NCSG, not to the NCUC or to NPOC. In the event that there are four or more nominations for the three slots, who is responsible for selecting our representatives, and how will the candidates be assessed?
Thanks,
Ayden
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Subject: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Request for confirmation of members - GNSO Standing Selection Committee
Local Time: 20 March 2017 4:22 PM
UTC Time: 20 March 2017 16:22
From: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info">ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info</a>
To: <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>
Thank you Martin.
That leaves us with the confortable situation of three volunteers for
three positions, if I understood correctly that Avri isn't available:
Poncelet, Ed and Rafik.
There's still time though if someone else wants to volunteer or
nominate someone, but not much.
Given that council's deadline is Monday, 27 March, let's make our
internal deadline Thursday, 23 March, at 23:59 UTC.
That leaves us Friday and the weekend to make our decision in case
more candidates show up.
Tapani
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 01:06:33PM -0300, Martin Pablo Silva Valent (<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:mpsilvavalent@gmail.com">mpsilvavalent@gmail.com</a>) wrote:
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<pre wrap="">Dear all,
I confirm that NPOCs will support Poncelet's nomination. He is been a long
time in icann and has high moral sense of integrity.
Best,
Martin Silva
On 17 Mar 2017 08:06, "Rafik Dammak" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com"><rafik.dammak@gmail.com></a> wrote:
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<pre wrap="">hi all,
I will be glad to volunteer for the SSC.
I had experience in selection, reviewing applications etc with
ICANN nomcom when I was NCUC representative there.
Best Regards,
Rafik
2017-03-16 22:53 GMT+09:00 Tapani Tarvainen <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info"><ncsg@tapani.tarvainen.info></a>:
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<pre wrap="">Dear all,
See below. We need to appoint three (3) members to the SSC.
Deadline is March 27 - there's not much time.
Suggestions, volunteers?
Tapani
----- Forwarded message from Nathalie Peregrine <
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nathalie.peregrine@icann.org">nathalie.peregrine@icann.org</a>> -----
Dear All,
On 15 March, the GNSO Council adopted the charter for the GNSO
Standing Selection Committee (SSC) – see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection">https://gnso.icann.org/en/drafts/draft-standing-selection</a>-
committee-15mar17-en.pdf[gnso.icann.org]<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_draft-2Dstanding-2Dselection-2Dcommittee-2D15mar17-2Den.pdf&d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSDzgqG&m=KmYsfcYHwH-JYXWIJ58L-ZnwETFBe1FrVJ8qghEsRV8&s=GmTt0n-0Bp3olHk5awt9BtmGRrEZnY7TI9fF4Fnvcy4&e="><https://urldefense.
proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__gnso.icann.org_en_drafts_
draft-2Dstanding-2Dselection-2Dcommittee-2D15mar17-2Den.pdf&
d=DwMGaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=
PDd_FX3f4MVgkEIi9GHvVoUhbecsvLhgsyXrxgtbL10DTBs0i1jYiBM_uTSD
zgqG&m=KmYsfcYHwH-JYXWIJ58L-ZnwETFBe1FrVJ8qghEsRV8&s=GmTt0n-
0Bp3olHk5awt9BtmGRrEZnY7TI9fF4Fnvcy4&e=></a>.
The SSC is tasked, as requested by the GNSO Council, to 1), where
applicable, prepare and issue calls for applications related to the
selection or nomination of candidates for ICANN structures such as
ICANN review teams as well as structures related to the Empowered
Community, 2) review and evaluate all relevant applicants/candidates,
3) rank candidates and make selection/appointment recommendations for
review and approval by Council and 4) communicate selections to all
interested parties.
The membership structure of the SSC is as follows:
The SSC shall consist of a total of 9 members appointed as follows:
- One member appointed by each Stakeholder Group of the
Contracted Party House;
- One member appointed respectively from each of the Business
Constituency, the Intellectual Property Constituency, and the Internet
Service Providers and Connectivity Providers Constituency;
- Three members appointed by the Non-Commercial Stakeholder
Group; and,
- One member from one of the three Nominating-Committee
appointees to the GNSO Council.
The GNSO Council has tasked the SSC to carry out the review and
selection of GNSO endorsed candidates for the Registration Directory
Service Review Team for Council consideration at the latest by its 20
April 2017 meeting. Furthermore, the GNSO Council has tasked the SSC
to develop the criteria and the process for the selection of the GNSO
Representative to the Empowered Community for GNSO Council
consideration by its June 2017 meeting.
Your respective groups are requested to communicate their member(s) to
the SSC to the GNSO Secretariat
(<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org">gnso-secs@icann.org</a>)<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org)"><mailto:gnso-secs@icann.org)></a> by 27 March at the
latest. A first meeting of the SSC will be scheduled for Thursday 30
March at 16.00 UTC.
Best regards,
Marika Konings
Vice President, Policy Development Support – GNSO, Internet Corporation
for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
----- End forwarded message -----
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