<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra">Hi Avri,</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>
thanks for the comments <br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-03-08 2:24 GMT+09:00 avri doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" target="_blank">avri@apc.org</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br>
Another question, what formula re we using. Has NCPH come to<br>
agreement? Have we agreed to as many nominiees as come forward?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don't think there was any indication about CSG position on that. I assume we will go with many nominees. </div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
If so should we be nominating on the NCPH list as opposed to by SG?<br>
<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think we should agree in PC first then nominate on NCPH list (and back to Greg point we are piggybacking the intersessional list ) </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Who is the point person for NCSG in this dog's beakfast?<br>
<br></blockquote><div>I guess you mean the interface with CSG here ? I guess I volunteered for that :)</div><div> </div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Rafik</div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
<br>
On 07-Mar-17 11:03, Ayden Férdeline wrote:<br>
> Do we have any ideas around who the CSG will be nominating? I have<br>
> heard one name mumbled, but if anyone has heard something more<br>
> concrete, I would be curious to hear what you have learned... Thanks.<br>
><br>
> - Ayden<br>
><br>
>> -------- Original Message --------<br>
>> Subject: [NCSG-PC] Board seat nomination<br>
>> Local Time: 7 March 2017 10:52 AM<br>
>> UTC Time: 7 March 2017 10:52<br>
>> From: <a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> To: ncsg-pc <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><br>
>><br>
>> Hi everyone,<br>
>><br>
>> As we agreed before, we have to get candidates nominated for the<br>
>> board seat election by this Friday.<br>
>><br>
>> We don't have a procedure written yet but we need to act here:<br>
>> nominating and documenting the process.<br>
>><br>
>> I am thinking we should encourage people to nominate but not<br>
>> self-nomination. And because time constraint to make the nomination<br>
>> by PC members and keeping NCSG members informed about the process.<br>
>> Any volunteer to help me to document the process.<br>
>> It is not optimal but I sensed from the discussion that we got to be<br>
>> proactive.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>><br>
>> On Mar 1, 2017 9:58 PM, "Rafik Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
</div></div><span class="">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Hi Ed,<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for the message, yes this something we have to agree and<br>
>> act quickly on it.<br>
>> I think that was/should be nomination by others and within PC,<br>
>> but looking to hear from others too. We got till 10th March to<br>
>> get nominees.<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>><br>
>> 2017-03-01 21:54 GMT+09:00 Edward Morris <<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a><br>
</span>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:egmorris1@toast.net">egmorris1@toast.net</a>>>:<br>
<span class="">>><br>
>> Thanks Rafik.<br>
>><br>
>> One question; Are nominations within our group to be self<br>
>> nominations, nominations by others, both, and opened to the<br>
>> general membership or just members of the PC?<br>
>><br>
>> I'm sorry to ask what may be basic questions but I haven't<br>
>> been involved in the Board selection process before and would<br>
>> just like to fully understand the process.<br>
>><br>
>> Kind Regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Ed<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
</span>>> ------------------------------<wbr>------------------------------<wbr>------------<br>
>><br>
>> *From*: "Rafik Dammak" <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>><br>
<span class="">>> *Sent*: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:49 PM<br>
>> *To*: "<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>" <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>><br>
>> *Cc*: "ncsg-pc" <<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is">ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is</a>><wbr>><br>
</span>>> *Subject*: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board<br>
<span class="">>> Seat Selection Process<br>
>><br>
>> Hi everyone,<br>
>><br>
>> since there was no objection, I will send our response to CSG<br>
>> and also our suggestion for nomination period to run from 1st<br>
>> March to 10th March .<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>><br>
>> 2017-02-27 23:05 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak<br>
</span>>> <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>>:<br>
<div><div class="h5">>><br>
>> Hi Avri,<br>
>><br>
>> thanks for the suggestion,<br>
>><br>
>> so we have now:<br>
>> - we cannot accept CSG proposal.<br>
>> - we can start the nomination process, for NCSG and CSG<br>
>> in parallel starting (Wednesday?)<br>
>><br>
>> Our counter-proposal is:<br>
>><br>
>> * NCA is not to removed from any part of the process<br>
>> * there must be a vote along the previous lines - 8 to<br>
>> succeed.<br>
>> * as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br>
>> * 1st round if one gets 8 then done, if not second<br>
>> round between top two<br>
>> * a joint interview of the top 2 before second round<br>
>> with the whole house.<br>
>> * 2nd round if one get 8 then done, if not do 3rd round<br>
>> of leader<br>
>> against NOTA<br>
>> * 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave the seat<br>
>> open until we get<br>
>> our act together.<br>
>> * then CSG PCs, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and NCA<br>
>> talk until we<br>
>> get our act together.<br>
>><br>
>> we need to agree quickly on procedure for NCSG and<br>
>> document that.<br>
>> can we get consensus this by Tuesday 12:00pm UTC and<br>
>> respond ot CSG?<br>
>><br>
>> Best,<br>
>><br>
>> Rafik<br>
>> 2017-02-24<br>
>> 21:42 GMT+09:00 avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a><br>
</div></div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org">avri@acm.org</a>>>:<br>
<div><div class="h5">>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> some minor typo corrections<br>
>><br>
>> Our counter-proposal is:<br>
>><br>
>> * NCA is not to removed from any part of the process<br>
>> * there must be a vote along the previous lines - 8<br>
>> to succeed.<br>
>> * as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br>
>> * 1st round if one gets 8 then done, if not second<br>
>> round between top two<br>
>><br>
>> * 2nd round if one get 8 then done, if not do 3rd<br>
>> round of leader<br>
>> against NOTA<br>
>> * 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave the<br>
>> seat open until we get<br>
>> our act together.<br>
>> * then CSG PCs, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and<br>
>> NCA talk until we<br>
>> get our act together.<br>
>><br>
>> On 24-Feb-17 00:31, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
>> > Hi,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Thanks Avri, Matt, Ed for comments and suggestions<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I guess we say:<br>
>> > - we cannot accept CSG proposal.<br>
>> > - However, we can start the nomination process, for<br>
>> NCSG and CSG in<br>
>> > parallel starting next week Monday<br>
>> > - Our counter-proposal is:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > * NCA is not to removed from any part of the process<br>
>> > * there must be a vote along the previous lines -<br>
>> 8 to succeed.<br>
>> > * as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br>
>> > * 1st round if one get 8 done, if not second<br>
>> round between top two<br>
>> > * 2nd round if one get 8 done, if not do 3rd<br>
>> round of leader against<br>
>> > NOTA<br>
>> > * 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave the<br>
>> seat open until we<br>
>> > get our act together.<br>
>> > * then CSG PC, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and<br>
>> NCA talk until we<br>
>> > get our act together.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > if we have a consensus by Sunday, we should share<br>
>> our response with CSG.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Best,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Rafik<br>
>> ><br>
>> > 2017-02-24 9:29 GMT+09:00 avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org">avri@apc.org</a><br>
</div></div>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org">avri@apc.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org">avri@apc.org</a><br>
<div><div class="h5">>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org">avri@apc.org</a>>>>:<br>
>> ><br>
>> > Hi,<br>
>> ><br>
>> > I think we could respond that we do not accept<br>
>> their proposal<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - NCA is not to removed from any part of the<br>
>> process<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - we insist that there be a vote along the<br>
>> previous lines - 8 to<br>
>> > succeed.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - 1st round if one get 8 done, if not second<br>
>> round between top two<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - 2nd round if one get 8 done, if not do 3rd<br>
>> round of leader<br>
>> > against NOTA<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave<br>
>> seat open until we get our<br>
>> > act together.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > - then CSG PC, NCSG PC, NCPH council members<br>
>> and NCA talk until<br>
>> > we get<br>
>> > our act together.<br>
>> ><br>
>> > avri<br>
>> ><br>
>> > On 23-Feb-17 05:49, matthew shears wrote:<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Perhaps as a first step go back to CSG and<br>
>> say we are considering/or<br>
>> > > not their doc and will be proposing something<br>
>> or an alternative<br>
>> > > version - and put some deadline on it for us<br>
>> - maybe end of next<br>
>> > week?<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > And, try to get agreement on a nomination<br>
>> period - say next<br>
>> > week? or<br>
>> > > two weeks from Monday? Probably would be<br>
>> useful to have the<br>
>> > CSG and<br>
>> > > NCSG nomination periods run in parallel.<br>
>> Agree with CSG whether<br>
>> > > should be nomination and/or self nomination.<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > In the interim start work on the process?<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > Matthew<br>
>> > ><br>
>> > ><br>
>> > > On 23/02/2017 08:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
>> > >> Hi all,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> we really need to develop our response or<br>
>> proposal to CSG<br>
>> > quickly. at<br>
>> > >> least covering the topic of nomination.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Best,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Rafik<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> 2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>><br>
>> > >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr>>>>>:<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Hi Matt,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> thanks for the response, looking for<br>
>> other comments on this<br>
>> > topic.<br>
>> > >> I think we can start with nomination<br>
>> whole we work on the<br>
>> > process<br>
>> > >> and adjust the whole timeline.<br>
>> > >> how we shall proceed for nominations, we<br>
>> have 2 candidates for<br>
>> > >> now. shall we initiate a process to find<br>
>> other candidates? we<br>
>> > >> don't have so much time for a long<br>
>> nomination period.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> I understand that we are having the<br>
>> deadline as a mean to press<br>
>> > >> us but we should stand and be clear<br>
>> about the aspects which are<br>
>> > >> non-negotiable with regard to the process.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Best,<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Rafik<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew<br>
>> shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>>><br>
>> > >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org">mshears@cdt.org</a>>>>>:<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Thanks Rafik<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Not sure much was agreed except that<br>
>> we need to deal<br>
>> > with it<br>
>> > >> and we are running out of time.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> First we had the timeline from Greg<br>
>> before the meeting,<br>
>> > which<br>
>> > >> was not really discussed further.<br>
>> Then we had some general<br>
>> > >> discussion about the need to do<br>
>> something on the Board<br>
>> > >> selection process. People voiced<br>
>> their views on different<br>
>> > >> aspects of the process and there was<br>
>> concern over the<br>
>> > >> timeline, but we did not really<br>
>> decide anything (others<br>
>> > >> please jump in as I may have missed<br>
>> some important<br>
>> > >> aspects). Markus announced he<br>
>> wanted to continue in the<br>
>> > >> role; I announced I was going to<br>
>> run. Then the CSG<br>
>> > proposal<br>
>> > >> for a process was circulated on<br>
>> Thurs AM. There seemed<br>
>> > to be<br>
>> > >> general agreement that the CSG<br>
>> proposal was not ideal.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> I think the key immediate thing is<br>
>> us agreeing a<br>
>> > process and<br>
>> > >> timeline for nominations and getting<br>
>> that announced, so at<br>
>> > >> least the initial stages of the<br>
>> process are underway.<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> Matthew<br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >><br>
>> > >> On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br>
>> > >>> Hi everyone,<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> We got this note from Greg to<br>
>> resume the discussion on<br>
>> > board<br>
>> > >>> seat election.<br>
>> > >>> First thing, is it possible to get<br>
>> a summary of what<br>
>> > or not<br>
>> > >>> agreed on iceland on that regard<br>
>> from those who attended<br>
>> > >>> intersessional?<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> We also need to outline what are<br>
>> our non-negotiable points<br>
>> > >>> such as having vote, NCA<br>
>> participation and so on.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> I think tgat the CSG proposal from<br>
>> last week is far<br>
>> > from our<br>
>> > >>> expectations.<br>
>> > >>> There is also proposal to have a<br>
>> call. We can have it<br>
>> > by end<br>
>> > >>> of this week but we do need to be<br>
>> ready.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> Best,<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> Rafik<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br>
>> > >>> From: "Greg Shatan"<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>><br>
>> > >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>>>><br>
>> > >>> Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM<br>
>> > >>> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017]<br>
>> Board Seat<br>
>> > Selection Process<br>
>> > >>> To:<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-intersessional2017@<wbr>icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>>><wbr>>><br>
>> > >>> Cc:<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> All,<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> We probably need a different<br>
>> mailing list to finish<br>
>> > >>> working on the Board Seat<br>
>> selection process, and a<br>
>> > small<br>
>> > >>> group to do it, but I'll start<br>
>> here, since I think<br>
>> > this<br>
>> > >>> is the only active mailing list<br>
>> with both sides of the<br>
>> > >>> NCPH on it.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> We basically have no time to<br>
>> work this out, and we've<br>
>> > >>> already started the process<br>
>> without knowing what it is<br>
>> > >>> exactly, since we have now<br>
>> received nominations.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> In addition to the adaptation<br>
>> of the CPH procedures<br>
>> > >>> previously circulated, I'm also<br>
>> attaching the<br>
>> > following<br>
>> > >>> for consideration:<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> 1. Some bullet-points from an<br>
>> exchange between<br>
>> > CSG and<br>
>> > >>> NCSG representatives outlining<br>
>> a potential draft<br>
>> > process.<br>
>> > >>> 2. The latest version of the<br>
>> ICANN Staff Memo with a<br>
>> > >>> revised draft timeline and some<br>
>> relevant excerpts from<br>
>> > >>> Bylaws and GNSO Procedures.<br>
>> > >>> 3. A further excerpt from the<br>
>> Bylaws, with Section<br>
>> > >>> 11.3(f), which covers the<br>
>> selection process for Seats<br>
>> > >>> 13-14 (to the extent that is<br>
>> covered in the<br>
>> > Bylaws), and<br>
>> > >>> Section 11.3(h), which is<br>
>> referred to in Section<br>
>> > 11.3(f).<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> A few thoughts and comments:<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks<br>
>> to both develop and go<br>
>> > >>> through a process that is<br>
>> contemplated to take 21<br>
>> > weeks<br>
>> > >>> (just to go through). Talk<br>
>> about building the<br>
>> > airplane<br>
>> > >>> in the air.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> B. At the Intersessional, we<br>
>> discussed possible<br>
>> > >>> adjustments to the timeline,<br>
>> but did not come to any<br>
>> > >>> decisions. It's not clear to<br>
>> me whether Staff is<br>
>> > >>> preparing a further revised<br>
>> draft. I'll ask.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> C. If any of our groups have<br>
>> not already done so, we<br>
>> > >>> should put out a call for any<br>
>> other nominations ASAP<br>
>> > >>> (though it would be nice to<br>
>> know the end of the<br>
>> > >>> nomination period).<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> D. Without making any<br>
>> judgments, the CPH process and<br>
>> > >>> the NCPH bullet-points are<br>
>> significantly different<br>
>> > when<br>
>> > >>> it comes to voting.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> E. We should figure out how to<br>
>> get this process<br>
>> > agreed<br>
>> > >>> as quickly as possible. Given<br>
>> the unusual<br>
>> > >>> circumstances, we don't need to<br>
>> use this process as<br>
>> > >>> precedent for any future<br>
>> process. We just need to get<br>
>> > >>> through this selection. One<br>
>> approach is for NCSG to<br>
>> > >>> respond to the draft sent at<br>
>> the end of the<br>
>> > >>> Intersessional. However, given<br>
>> the gap between<br>
>> > that and<br>
>> > >>> the bullet-points, it might<br>
>> just be better to<br>
>> > arrange a<br>
>> > >>> call/Adobe Connect session ASAP<br>
>> to move the ball<br>
>> > forward.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> Thanks for reading,<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> Greg<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> P.S. It's not all that<br>
>> important how we got here, but<br>
>> > >>> nonetheless, it should be noted<br>
>> that the GNSO<br>
>> > Procedures<br>
>> > >>> were never updated from 2012,<br>
>> when the Bylaws deadline<br>
>> > >>> for naming the Director was<br>
>> changed from one month to<br>
>> > >>> two months (briefly) and then<br>
>> six months prior to<br>
>> > being<br>
>> > >>> seated. (The GNSO Procedures<br>
>> will need to be<br>
>> > updated in<br>
>> > >>> any event, since the Bylaws<br>
>> references are now<br>
>> > >>> obsolete.)) The draft<br>
>> bullet-points repeated this<br>
>> > error.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> B. Since we are doing this<br>
>> with very little time<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> *Greg Shatan<br>
>> > >>> *C: 917-816-6428<br>
>> > >>> S: gsshatan<br>
>> > >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428<br>
>> > >>> <a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a><br>
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>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> ---------- Forwarded message<br>
>> ----------<br>
>> > >>> From: *Greg Shatan*<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>><br>
>> > >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>>>><br>
>> > >>> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM<br>
>> > >>> Subject: Discussion Draft of<br>
>> Interim Board<br>
>> > Selection Process<br>
>> > >>> To:<br>
>> <a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-intersessional2017@icann.<wbr>org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>><br>
>> > <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org">ncph-<wbr>intersessional2017@icann.org</a>>><wbr>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional<br>
>> Participants,<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> The CSG prepared a "discussion<br>
>> draft" of a proposed<br>
>> > >>> interim Board Selection Process<br>
>> based closely on the<br>
>> > >>> Final Process adopted by the<br>
>> Contracted Parties House.<br>
>> > >>> Clean and marked drafts are<br>
>> attached, showing changes<br>
>> > >>> from the CPH document.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> A Google Docs version can be<br>
>> found here, where any<br>
>> > >>> suggested changes can be added<br>
>> in "suggest" mode (but<br>
>> > >>> everyone has "edit"<br>
>> > >>> rights):<br>
>> ><br>
>> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_<wbr>RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_<wbr>RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_<wbr>RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
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>> > >>><br>
>> ><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_<wbr>RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_<wbr>RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a>><br>
>> ><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_<wbr>RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a><br>
>> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/<wbr>document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_<wbr>RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/<wbr>edit?usp=sharing</a>>>><br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> We would hope to use this for<br>
>> the current 2017 Board<br>
>> > >>> Seat process and then revisit<br>
>> afterward before<br>
>> > making it<br>
>> > >>> a permanent rather than<br>
>> "interim" process.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> This has not been reviewed by<br>
>> the membership of<br>
>> > the IPC,<br>
>> > >>> BC and ISPCP, but we wanted to<br>
>> start the discussion on<br>
>> > >>> this basis, given the short<br>
>> amount of time we have for<br>
>> > >>> this year.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> We look forward to your thoughts.<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> Thanks!<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP<br>
>> Intersessional Teams)<br>
>> > >>><br>
>> > >>> *Greg Shatan<br>
>> > >>> *C: 917-816-6428<br>
>> <tel:%28917%29%20816-6428><br>
>> > >>> S: gsshatan<br>
>> > >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428<br>
>> > <tel:%28646%29%20845-9428><br>
>> > >>> <a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a><br>
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