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<p>I think Stephanie raises excellent points and a really good
option. I like the idea of our writing a response - with her
questions.</p>
<p>Best, Kathy<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/2/2017 9:55 PM, Stephanie Perrin
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<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I am thinking. I
recommend pushing the pause button. I have fond memories of
drafting speeches for my assistant deputy minister to attend
the wretched Canadian Association of Police Chiefs
Conference annually, and there was always a wish list from
them of outrageous demands (ban radio scanners, ban radar
scanners, stop allowing unlisted phone numbers, let us do
cell tower scoops, etcetcetc. I used to tell him, how about
we start with you reading the Canadian Charter of Rights and
Freedoms to them.....(pardon me, a brief stroll down memory
lane).</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">I think a response
is required. These organizations are non-transparent.
Let's ask for the evidence for their allegations. this is
about money, human intervention, and paperwork. What about
the risk to end users, the citizens they have sworn to
protect? where is their risk assessment and stats for that?</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">But get ready, this
is just the opening salvo. They have been preparing the
flank attack over the past year while we toiled away on the
committee. Stock up on Red Bull, we are going to need
it....</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">Stephanie</font></font></p>
<p><font size="+1"><font face="Lucida Grande">PS I will forward
this to the data protection officer at Interpol. She may
have some advice.....</font></font><br>
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<div>Grr... Should we react to this? Draft a statement
condemning elements of their resolution? Write them a letter
putting forward our issues with it, and suggest they join
relevant PDPs if they wish to influence the future of the RDS?
Or take no action?</div>
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<div>Subject: [gnso-rds-pdp-wg] international law enforcement
association resolution regarding domain registration data<br>
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<div>Local Time: 2 March 2017 6:35 PM<br>
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<div>UTC Time: 2 March 2017 18:35<br>
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<div>From: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:gca@icginc.com">gca@icginc.com</a><br>
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<div>To: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="mailto:gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org">gnso-rds-pdp-wg@icann.org</a>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The International Association of Chiefs
of Police (IACP) has issued an official resolution
regarding domain name registration data. <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">The resolution requests that ICANN and
related parties provide “continued access to publicly
available databases concerning the allocation of Internet
resources, and in situations where the maintenance of
these databases may conflict with privacy regulation,
business concerns, or data-mining prevention efforts,
fully consult with the International law enforcement to
assist in the resolution of these potential conflicts
before removing or restricting law enforcement access to
this critical information; and… that IACP membership
coordinate the above efforts to achieve the goal of
providing consistent, equal, and uniform access to the
above-referenced resources for all of the international
law enforcement community.”<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Founded in 1893, the IACP (<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://www.iacp.org"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">www.iacp.org</a>) is
the professional association for law enforcement officers,
with members in 133 countries worldwide, primarily
leadership-level personnel in national, state/provincial,
and local agencies. "The Association's goals are to
advance the science and art of police services; to develop
and disseminate improved administrative, technical and
operational practices and promote their use in police
work; to foster police cooperation and the exchange of
information and experience among police administrators
throughout the world....and to encourage adherence of all
police officers to high professional standards of
performance and conduct."<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"> <br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">The text of the full resolution is
below and contains the rationales. It notes that loss of
access to the currently available data “would severely
cripple or eliminate the ability of law enforcement
agencies to conduct investigation in a timely manner.”<br>
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<p class="MsoPlainText">The document is attached, and also
at: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions"
rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener">
http://www.theiacp.org/Resolutions</a> <br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I kindly request that this be added to
our bank of reference materials. (Thanks, Lisa and
Michelle.)<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Support for Law Enforcement Access to
Publicly Available and Accurate Internet Address
Registration Data to include privacy protected registrant
information and related Forensic Resources to facilitate
investigation of Cybercrime and Cyber Enabled Crime<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Submitted by: Communications and
Technology Committee<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">CTC.06.t16<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, this is an updated version of
an expired 2005 adopted resolution then submitted by the
Communications and Technology Committee as CT23.a05 and
adopted at the 112th Annual Conference; and<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, the lawful investigation of
Internet communications is one of the most valuable tools
available to law enforcement in identifying both the
perpetrators and victims of crime; and<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, the Internet is global in
nature, and as such, poses challenges when conducting
multiagency international investigations, including delays
imposed when obtaining international legal process; and<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, electronic or digital evidence
associated with the Internet is fleeting in nature, and
law enforcement officials must obtain timely access to
this information to fulfill law enforcement duties; and<br>
</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, criminals use the anonymity
and international nature of the Internet, and the fleeting
nature of electronic or digital evidence, to thwart law
enforcement investigations; and<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, publicly available databases
containing information involving the allocation of
Internet resources and who they are assigned to, such as
Internet Protocol address space and domain names, are a
critical tool used by law enforcement, and because these
databases are public in nature, allow law enforcement
agencies access to conduct investigations in the most
timely manner possible; and<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WHERAS, allocation of Internet
resources is expanding rapidly due to impending exhaustion
of Internet Protocol Version 4 address space and the
subsequent and simultaneous implementation of Internet
Protocol Version 6 as well as the implementation of
numerous new top level domains by the Internet Corporation
for the Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), accurate and
easily accessible registrant information is now even more
important to law enforcement than in 2005 when the
original resolution was adopted; and<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, ICANN and its International
members involved in the creation of policy consensus and
administration of this information currently are
considering new registrant data policy which may seek to
restrict or eliminate fluid public access due to business,
privacy, or data-mining concerns; and<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">WHEREAS, the elimination or restriction
of easy fluid access to this information would severely
cripple or eliminate the ability of law enforcement
agencies to conduct investigation in a timely manner; now
therefore be it<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">RESOLVED, that the International
Association of Chiefs of Police (IACP) strongly urges the
related Internet administration communities, including
governments, regional Internet registries, the Internet
Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, Internet
Service Providers, domain-name registries, domain-name
registrars, and Internet service providers to assist law
enforcement by providing continued access to publicly
available databases concerning the allocation of Internet
resources, and in situations where the maintenance of
these databases may conflict with privacy regulation,
business concerns, or data-mining prevention efforts,
fully consult with the International law enforcement to
assist in the resolution of these potential conflicts
before removing or restricting law enforcement access to
this critical information; and be it<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FURTHER RESOLVED, that the IACP
membership coordinate the above efforts to achieve the
goal of providing consistent, equal, and uniform access to
the above-referenced resources for all of the
international law enforcement community.<br>
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