<span style="font-family: 'Lucida Sans Unicode','Lucida Grande',Sans-Serif; font-size: 14px"><div>Thanks Rafik. </div>
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<div>One question; Are nominations within our group to be self nominations, nominations by others, both, and opened to the general membership or just members of the PC?</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I'm sorry to ask what may be basic questions but I haven't been involved in the Board selection process before and would just like to fully understand the process.</div>
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<div>Kind Regards,</div>
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<div>Ed </div>
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<div><span style="font-family: tahoma,arial,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"><b>From</b>: "Rafik Dammak" <rafik.dammak@gmail.com><br />
<b>Sent</b>: Wednesday, March 1, 2017 12:49 PM<br />
<b>To</b>: "avri@acm.org" <avri@acm.org><br />
<b>Cc</b>: "ncsg-pc" <ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is><br />
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat Selection Process</span>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Hi everyone,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">since there was no objection, I will send our response to CSG and also our suggestion for nomination period to run from 1st March to 10th March .</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Rafik<br />
<div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-27 23:05 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a>></span>:
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div class="gmail_extra">Hi Avri,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">thanks for the suggestion,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">so we have now:</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span>- we cannot accept CSG proposal.</span><br />
- we can start the nomination process, for NCSG and CSG in parallel starting (Wednesday?)<br />
<br />
<span>Our counter-proposal is:<br />
<br />
* NCA is not to removed from any part of the process<br />
* there must be a vote along the previous lines - 8 to succeed.<br />
* as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br />
* 1st round if one gets 8 then done, if not second round between top two</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px"> <font color="#ff0000"> * a joint interview of the top 2 </font></span><span style="font-size:12.8px"><font color="#ff0000">before second round with the whole house.</font></span><br />
<span> * 2nd round if one get 8 then done, if not do 3rd round of leader<br />
against NOTA<br />
* 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave the seat open until we get<br />
our act together.<br />
* then CSG PCs, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and NCA talk until we<br />
get our act together.</span><br />
<br />
we need to agree quickly on procedure for NCSG and document that.</div>
<div class="gmail_extra">can we get consensus this by Tuesday 12:00pm UTC and respond ot CSG?</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Best,</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"> </div>
<div class="gmail_extra">Rafik
<div class="gmail_quote">2017-02-24</div>
<div class="gmail_quote"> 21:42 GMT+09:00 avri doria <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:avri@acm.org" target="_blank">avri@acm.org</a>></span>:
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<div class="m_-4052440773660215444h5">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br />
<br />
some minor typo corrections<br />
<br />
Our counter-proposal is:<br />
<br />
* NCA is not to removed from any part of the process<br />
* there must be a vote along the previous lines - 8 to succeed.<br />
* as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br />
* 1st round if one gets 8 then done, if not second round between top two </blockquote>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> * 2nd round if one get 8 then done, if not do 3rd round of leader<br />
against NOTA<br />
* 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave the seat open until we get<br />
our act together.<br />
* then CSG PCs, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and NCA talk until we<br />
get our act together.<br />
<br />
<span class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-">On 24-Feb-17 00:31, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br />
> Hi,<br />
><br />
> Thanks Avri, Matt, Ed for comments and suggestions<br />
><br />
> I guess we say:<br />
> - we cannot accept CSG proposal.<br />
> - However, we can start the nomination process, for NCSG and CSG in<br />
> parallel starting next week Monday<br />
> - Our counter-proposal is:<br />
></span><br />
> * NCA is not to removed from any part of the process<br />
> * there must be a vote along the previous lines - 8 to succeed.<br />
> * as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br />
> * 1st round if one get 8 done, if not second round between top two<br />
> * 2nd round if one get 8 done, if not do 3rd round of leader against<br />
> NOTA<br />
> * 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave the seat open until we<br />
> get our act together.<br />
> * then CSG PC, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and NCA talk until we<br />
<span class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-">> get our act together.<br />
><br />
> if we have a consensus by Sunday, we should share our response with CSG.<br />
><br />
> Best,<br />
><br />
> Rafik<br />
></span><br />
> 2017-02-24 9:29 GMT+09:00 avri doria <<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" target="_blank">avri@apc.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:avri@apc.org" target="_blank">avri@apc.org</a>>>:
<div>
<div class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-h5">><br />
> Hi,<br />
><br />
> I think we could respond that we do not accept their proposal<br />
><br />
> - NCA is not to removed from any part of the process<br />
><br />
> - we insist that there be a vote along the previous lines - 8 to<br />
> succeed.<br />
><br />
> - as many nominees as come forward in a week.<br />
><br />
> - 1st round if one get 8 done, if not second round between top two<br />
><br />
> - 2nd round if one get 8 done, if not do 3rd round of leader<br />
> against NOTA<br />
><br />
> - 3rd round if person does not get 8, leave seat open until we get our<br />
> act together.<br />
><br />
> - then CSG PC, NCSG PC, NCPH council members and NCA talk until<br />
> we get<br />
> our act together.<br />
><br />
> avri<br />
><br />
> On 23-Feb-17 05:49, matthew shears wrote:<br />
> ><br />
> > Perhaps as a first step go back to CSG and say we are considering/or<br />
> > not their doc and will be proposing something or an alternative<br />
> > version - and put some deadline on it for us - maybe end of next<br />
> week?<br />
> ><br />
> > And, try to get agreement on a nomination period - say next<br />
> week? or<br />
> > two weeks from Monday? Probably would be useful to have the<br />
> CSG and<br />
> > NCSG nomination periods run in parallel. Agree with CSG whether<br />
> > should be nomination and/or self nomination.<br />
> ><br />
> > In the interim start work on the process?<br />
> ><br />
> > Matthew<br />
> ><br />
> ><br />
> > On 23/02/2017 08:07, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br />
> >> Hi all,<br />
> >><br />
> >> we really need to develop our response or proposal to CSG<br />
> quickly. at<br />
> >> least covering the topic of nomination.<br />
> >><br />
> >> Best,<br />
> >><br />
> >> Rafik<br />
> >><br />
> >> 2017-02-22 11:27 GMT+09:00 Rafik Dammak <<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.co<wbr />m</a>></div>
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> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:rafik.dammak@gmail.com" target="_blank">rafik.dammak@gmail.com</a><wbr />>>>:<br />
<span class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-">> >><br />
> >> Hi Matt,<br />
> >><br />
> >> thanks for the response, looking for other comments on this<br />
> topic.<br />
> >> I think we can start with nomination whole we work on the<br />
> process<br />
> >> and adjust the whole timeline.<br />
> >> how we shall proceed for nominations, we have 2 candidates for<br />
> >> now. shall we initiate a process to find other candidates? we<br />
> >> don't have so much time for a long nomination period.<br />
> >><br />
> >> I understand that we are having the deadline as a mean to press<br />
> >> us but we should stand and be clear about the aspects which are<br />
> >> non-negotiable with regard to the process.<br />
> >><br />
> >> Best,<br />
> >><br />
> >> Rafik<br />
> >><br />
> >> 2017-02-21 19:13 GMT+09:00 matthew shears <<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" target="_blank">mshears@cdt.org</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" target="_blank">mshears@cdt.org</a>></span><br />
> >> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" target="_blank">mshears@cdt.org</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:mshears@cdt.org" target="_blank">mshears@cdt.org</a>>>>:
<div>
<div class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-h5">> >><br />
> >> Thanks Rafik<br />
> >><br />
> >> Not sure much was agreed except that we need to deal<br />
> with it<br />
> >> and we are running out of time.<br />
> >><br />
> >> First we had the timeline from Greg before the meeting,<br />
> which<br />
> >> was not really discussed further. Then we had some general<br />
> >> discussion about the need to do something on the Board<br />
> >> selection process. People voiced their views on different<br />
> >> aspects of the process and there was concern over the<br />
> >> timeline, but we did not really decide anything (others<br />
> >> please jump in as I may have missed some important<br />
> >> aspects). Markus announced he wanted to continue in the<br />
> >> role; I announced I was going to run. Then the CSG<br />
> proposal<br />
> >> for a process was circulated on Thurs AM. There seemed<br />
> to be<br />
> >> general agreement that the CSG proposal was not ideal.<br />
> >><br />
> >> I think the key immediate thing is us agreeing a<br />
> process and<br />
> >> timeline for nominations and getting that announced, so at<br />
> >> least the initial stages of the process are underway.<br />
> >><br />
> >> Matthew<br />
> >><br />
> >><br />
> >> On 20/02/2017 10:56, Rafik Dammak wrote:<br />
> >>> Hi everyone,<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> We got this note from Greg to resume the discussion on<br />
> board<br />
> >>> seat election.<br />
> >>> First thing, is it possible to get a summary of what<br />
> or not<br />
> >>> agreed on iceland on that regard from those who attended<br />
> >>> intersessional?<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> We also need to outline what are our non-negotiable points<br />
> >>> such as having vote, NCA participation and so on.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> I think tgat the CSG proposal from last week is far<br />
> from our<br />
> >>> expectations.<br />
> >>> There is also proposal to have a call. We can have it<br />
> by end<br />
> >>> of this week but we do need to be ready.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Best,<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Rafik<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br />
> >>> From: "Greg Shatan" <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.c<wbr />om</a>></div>
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<span class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-">> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.c<wbr />om</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr />m</a>>>><br />
> >>> Date: Feb 20, 2017 2:13 PM<br />
> >>> Subject: [Ncph-intersessional2017] Board Seat<br />
> Selection Process<br />
> >>> To: <<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional2017@icann<wbr />.org</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional20<wbr />17@icann.org</a>></span>
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<div class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-h5">> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional20<wbr />17@icann.org</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional20<wbr />17@icann.org</a>>>><br />
> >>> Cc:<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> All,<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> We probably need a different mailing list to finish<br />
> >>> working on the Board Seat selection process, and a<br />
> small<br />
> >>> group to do it, but I'll start here, since I think<br />
> this<br />
> >>> is the only active mailing list with both sides of the<br />
> >>> NCPH on it.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> We basically have no time to work this out, and we've<br />
> >>> already started the process without knowing what it is<br />
> >>> exactly, since we have now received nominations.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> In addition to the adaptation of the CPH procedures<br />
> >>> previously circulated, I'm also attaching the<br />
> following<br />
> >>> for consideration:<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> 1. Some bullet-points from an exchange between<br />
> CSG and<br />
> >>> NCSG representatives outlining a potential draft<br />
> process.<br />
> >>> 2. The latest version of the ICANN Staff Memo with a<br />
> >>> revised draft timeline and some relevant excerpts from<br />
> >>> Bylaws and GNSO Procedures.<br />
> >>> 3. A further excerpt from the Bylaws, with Section<br />
> >>> 11.3(f), which covers the selection process for Seats<br />
> >>> 13-14 (to the extent that is covered in the<br />
> Bylaws), and<br />
> >>> Section 11.3(h), which is referred to in Section<br />
> 11.3(f).<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> A few thoughts and comments:<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> A. We only have 10 1/2 weeks to both develop and go<br />
> >>> through a process that is contemplated to take 21<br />
> weeks<br />
> >>> (just to go through). Talk about building the<br />
> airplane<br />
> >>> in the air.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> B. At the Intersessional, we discussed possible<br />
> >>> adjustments to the timeline, but did not come to any<br />
> >>> decisions. It's not clear to me whether Staff is<br />
> >>> preparing a further revised draft. I'll ask.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> C. If any of our groups have not already done so, we<br />
> >>> should put out a call for any other nominations ASAP<br />
> >>> (though it would be nice to know the end of the<br />
> >>> nomination period).<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> D. Without making any judgments, the CPH process and<br />
> >>> the NCPH bullet-points are significantly different<br />
> when<br />
> >>> it comes to voting.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> E. We should figure out how to get this process<br />
> agreed<br />
> >>> as quickly as possible. Given the unusual<br />
> >>> circumstances, we don't need to use this process as<br />
> >>> precedent for any future process. We just need to get<br />
> >>> through this selection. One approach is for NCSG to<br />
> >>> respond to the draft sent at the end of the<br />
> >>> Intersessional. However, given the gap between<br />
> that and<br />
> >>> the bullet-points, it might just be better to<br />
> arrange a<br />
> >>> call/Adobe Connect session ASAP to move the ball<br />
> forward.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Thanks for reading,<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Greg<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> P.S. It's not all that important how we got here, but<br />
> >>> nonetheless, it should be noted that the GNSO<br />
> Procedures<br />
> >>> were never updated from 2012, when the Bylaws deadline<br />
> >>> for naming the Director was changed from one month to<br />
> >>> two months (briefly) and then six months prior to<br />
> being<br />
> >>> seated. (The GNSO Procedures will need to be<br />
> updated in<br />
> >>> any event, since the Bylaws references are now<br />
> >>> obsolete.)) The draft bullet-points repeated this<br />
> error.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> B. Since we are doing this with very little time<br />
> >>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>> *Greg Shatan<br />
> >>> *C: 917-816-6428<br />
> >>> S: gsshatan<br />
> >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428<br />
> >>> <a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a></div>
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> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.c<wbr />om</a>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.co<wbr />m</a><br />
<span class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.c<wbr />om</a>>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------<br />
> >>> From: *Greg Shatan* <<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.c<wbr />om</a>></span><br />
<span class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-">> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.c<wbr />om</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.c<wbr />om</a>>>><br />
> >>> Date: Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 5:28 AM<br />
> >>> Subject: Discussion Draft of Interim Board<br />
> Selection Process<br />
> >>> To: <a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional2017@icann.<wbr />org</a><br />
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional20<wbr />17@icann.org</a>></span><br />
> >>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional20<wbr />17@icann.org</a>
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<div class="m_-4052440773660215444m_2904200895758658371gmail-h5">> <mailto:<a href="mailto:ncph-intersessional2017@icann.org" target="_blank">ncph-intersessional20<wbr />17@icann.org</a>>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>> NCSG/NCUC/NPOC Intersessional Participants,<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> The CSG prepared a "discussion draft" of a proposed<br />
> >>> interim Board Selection Process based closely on the<br />
> >>> Final Process adopted by the Contracted Parties House.<br />
> >>> Clean and marked drafts are attached, showing changes<br />
> >>> from the CPH document.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> A Google Docs version can be found here, where any<br />
> >>> suggested changes can be added in "suggest" mode (but<br />
> >>> everyone has "edit"<br />
> >>> rights):<br />
> <a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr />ent/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGu<wbr />m4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=<wbr />sharing</a><br />
> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docu<wbr />ment/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHG<wbr />um4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp<wbr />=sharing</a>><br />
> >>><br />
> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docum<wbr />ent/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGu<wbr />m4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=<wbr />sharing</a><br />
> <<a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHGum4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/docu<wbr />ment/d/1lx8jCTEWGAuPyPpnL_RaHG<wbr />um4dQXf2a1MTyYXx8O9dc/edit?usp<wbr />=sharing</a>>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>> We would hope to use this for the current 2017 Board<br />
> >>> Seat process and then revisit afterward before<br />
> making it<br />
> >>> a permanent rather than "interim" process.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> This has not been reviewed by the membership of<br />
> the IPC,<br />
> >>> BC and ISPCP, but we wanted to start the discussion on<br />
> >>> this basis, given the short amount of time we have for<br />
> >>> this year.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> We look forward to your thoughts.<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Thanks!<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> Greg (on behalf of BC/IPC/ISPCP Intersessional Teams)<br />
> >>><br />
> >>> *Greg Shatan<br />
> >>> *C: 917-816-6428 <tel:%28917%29%20816-6428><br />
> >>> S: gsshatan<br />
> >>> Phone-to-Skype: 646-845-9428<br />
> <tel:%28646%29%20845-9428><br />
> >>> <a href="mailto:gregshatanipc@gmail.com" target="_blank">gregshatanipc@gmail.com</a></div>
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> >>><br />
> >>><br />
> >>><br />
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