<div>The meetings of the RDS PDP WG and the PPSAI IRT will be running in parallel at ICANN 58 in Copenhagen on the Saturday. This is very unfortunate, particularly if the law enforcement subgroup will be unveiling the below-mentioned proposal during this session... <br></div><div><br></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block "><div class="protonmail_signature_block-user "><div>Ayden <br></div></div><div class="protonmail_signature_block-proton protonmail_signature_block-empty"><br></div></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite" class="protonmail_quote"><div>-------- Original Message --------<br></div><div>Subject: [NCSG-PC] Fwd: Re: [Gdd_pp_irt_lea] PP Disclosure Framework Discussion Document<br></div><div>Local Time: 22 February 2017 6:41 PM<br></div><div>UTC Time: 22 February 2017 18:41<br></div><div>From: stephanie.perrin@mail.utoronto.ca<br></div><div>To: ncsg-pc <ncsg-pc@lists.ncsg.is>, Kathy Kleiman <kathy@kathykleiman.com><br></div><div><br></div><div> <br></div><p><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span class="font" style="font-family:Lucida Grande">Just a heads up: 
          What, me worry?  This is the implementation committee charged
          with putting into place the PPSAI policy we worked so hard on
          two years ago.  The Public Safety Working Group, you may
          recall, was not happy about the fact that we gave proxy rights
          to non-individuals (eg. groups and associations).</span></span><br></p><p><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span class="font" style="font-family:Lucida Grande">keeping an eye on this
          as I am on the group, but will need reinforcements shortly.</span></span><br></p><p><span class="size" style="font-size:undefinedpx"><span class="font" style="font-family:Lucida Grande">cheers stephanie</span></span><br></p><div class="moz-forward-container"><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>-------- Forwarded Message --------<br></div><table class="moz-email-headers-table" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Subject:<br></th><td>Re: [Gdd_pp_irt_lea] PP Disclosure Framework Discussion
              Document<br></td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">Date:<br></th><td>Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:29:34 +0000<br></td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">From:<br></th><td>Nick Shorey <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk"><nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk></a><br></td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">To:<br></th><td>Amy Bivins <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org"><amy.bivins@icann.org></a><br></td></tr><tr><th align="RIGHT" nowrap="nowrap" valign="BASELINE">CC:<br></th><td><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Gdd_pp_irt_lea@icann.org">Gdd_pp_irt_lea@icann.org</a> <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:Gdd_pp_irt_lea@icann.org"><Gdd_pp_irt_lea@icann.org></a><br></td></tr></tbody></table><div><br></div><div><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Amy, <br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for the email, and very timely as I was also
          planning to send an update through - you beat me to it!<br></div><div><br></div><div>We're about two weeks behind on our schedule, but we have a
          good group from the GAC / PSWG deliberating this issue, and
          I'm pleased to report we are already making good progress on
          some principles and structure, which we look forward to
          discussing with the broader IRT. I'm sure you can appreciate
          the level of detailed discussion around elements to the
          disclosure framework.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Regarding timings, it looks likely that the full GAC will
          wish to take the opportunity to review the work of our little
          team, before sharing it back with yourselves.<br></div><div><br></div><div>As such, I don't think we will be in a position to share
          the product of our discussions prior to ICANN58, but hopefully
          we can bring something to a session on the 11th which we can
          discuss.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I will keep you updated on this, and will discuss a
          suitable time to meet on 11th with my colleagues from the GAC
          and PSWG.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I hope that helps.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Nick<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><br></div><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div><b><span></span>Nick
                                                          Shorey
                                                          BA(Hons) MSc.</b><br></div><div>Senior
                                                          Policy Advisor
                                                          | Global
                                                          Internet
                                                          Governance<br></div><div>Department
                                                          for Culture,
                                                          Media &
                                                          Sport<br></div><div>HM
                                                          Government |
                                                          United Kingdom<br></div><div><br></div><div>Email: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk">nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk</a><br></div><div>Tel: +44
                                                          (0)7710 025
                                                          626<br></div><div>Skype:
                                                          nick.shorey<br></div><div>Twitter:
                                                          @nickshorey<br></div><div>LinkedIn: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin">www.linkedin.com/in/nicklinkedin</a><br></div><div>Web: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="http://www.nickshorey.com">www.nickshorey.com</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On 21 February 2017 at 17:13, Amy
          Bivins <span dir="ltr"><<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org">amy.bivins@icann.org</a>></span> wrote:<br></div><div> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="m_-1194519478967690294WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Hi
                    Nick,</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">I
                    hope you are well! I wanted to check in to see how
                    things are going on this project. If there is
                    anything that I can do to help please let me know.</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Also,
                    I want to invite you and your PSWG colleagues to
                    meet with the IRT about this project while we are
                    all together in Copenhagen. The IRT has a half-day
                    meeting scheduled for Saturday, 11 May, for the full
                    afternoon time slot (1:45 to 6:00). Are you and your
                    colleagues available to meet with the IRT to discuss
                    your work on this so far and any issues, questions
                    or open items?</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">The
                    IRT’s schedule on the 11<sup>th</sup> is flexible
                    enough to accommodate any time you and your
                    colleagues are available during the afternoon. If
                    you can suggest a time I’ll add it to the agenda.</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Thanks
                    so much, and we look forward to seeing you in
                    Copenhagen!</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Best,</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">Amy</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Amy
                      E. Bivins</span></span></span></b><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Registrar
                    Policy Services Manager</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Registrar
                    Services and Industry Relations</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Internet
                    Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)</span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Direct: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="tel:%28202%29%20249-7551" value="+12022497551">+1 (202)
                      249-7551</a></span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Fax:  <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="tel:%28202%29%20789-0104" value="+12027890104">+1 (202)
                      789-0104</a></span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Email: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org">amy.bivins@icann.org</a></span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt"><a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="http://www.icann.org">www.icann.org</a></span><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"></span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(31, 73, 125)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> </span></span></span><br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt">From:</span></span></b><span class="font" style="font-family:Calibri, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:11pt"> Nick Shorey [mailto:<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk">nick.shorey@culture.<wbr>gov.uk</a>] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 13, 2017 1:32 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Amy Bivins <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org">amy.bivins@icann.org</a>><br> <b>Cc:</b> <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:Gdd_pp_irt_lea@icann.org">Gdd_pp_irt_lea@icann.org</a><br> <b>Subject:</b> [Ext] Re: [Gdd_pp_irt_lea] [Feedback
                    requested by 13 January] PP Disclosure Framework
                    Discussion Document</span></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hi everyone,<br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On the section around requested
                      timeline, prior to circulation of this document
                      I'd proposed the below timeline to the PSWG team
                      working on a draft framework proposal. It's
                      largely the same (maybe a couple of weeks'
                      difference), but I'm mindful to manage
                      expectations within this group on how quickly we
                      might be able to progress.<br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">PSWG Disclosure Framework
                      Drafting Team Timeline:<br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt">i.
                            Team onboarding, task outline and background
                          research - Jan '17</span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt">ii.
                            Framework concepts - Feb '17</span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt">iii. 
                          Draft text - Feb '17</span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt">iiii.
                          Review (PSWG & GAC) - March '17</span><br></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt">v. 
                        Submission to IRT LEA Sub-Group - March '17</span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt">Kind
                        regards,</span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt">Nick</span><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="size" style="font-size:9.5pt"> </span><br></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><br></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><b>Nick
                                                          Shorey
                                                          BA(Hons) MSc.</b><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Senior
                                                          Policy Advisor
                                                          | Global
                                                          Internet
                                                          Governance<br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Department
                                                          for Culture,
                                                          Media &
                                                          Sport<br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">HM
                                                          Government |
                                                          United Kingdom<br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Email: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk">nick.shorey@culture.gov.uk</a><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Tel: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="tel:+44%207710%20025626" value="+447710025626">+44
                                                          (0)7710 025
                                                          626</a><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Skype:
                                                          nick.shorey<br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Twitter:
                                                          @nickshorey<br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">LinkedIn: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.linkedin.com_in_nicklinkedin&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=uerz4ckt1v4Qhbv-TplkjKTey9bgtdWrvLyZDu0mXuk&m=1ROHakUPjSwkTAi-6UPkQZyCtDMFUFvdNTqR3f45LtA&s=4v-P3hf2mpkM8a2Tiod3FmUAOeOPzHfaaCK03kY25H4&e=">www.linkedin.com/in/<wbr>nicklinkedin[linkedin.com]</a><br></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Web: <a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.nickshorey.com&d=DgMFaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=uerz4ckt1v4Qhbv-TplkjKTey9bgtdWrvLyZDu0mXuk&m=1ROHakUPjSwkTAi-6UPkQZyCtDMFUFvdNTqR3f45LtA&s=2YC4RdxOngI-PdiIJx2vpotHig5_emNi1WVdW3tt9VA&e=">www.nickshorey.com[nickshorey.<wbr>com]</a><br></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 9 January 2017 at 17:09, Amy
                      Bivins <<a rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" href="mailto:amy.bivins@icann.org">amy.bivins@icann.org</a>>
                      wrote:<br></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid
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                      6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Hello, All,<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thank you for
                            volunteering for the Privacy and Proxy
                            Service Provider Accreditation Program
                            IRT—LEA framework subteam.<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Attached, you will find a
                            discussion document that includes requested
                            topics/guidelines for the GAC Public Safety
                            Working Group discussions surrounding the
                            development of a proposed framework for LEA
                            requests to privacy and proxy service
                            providers. We plan to request that the PSWG
                            create a first draft proposal to be
                            discussed and refined within this subteam
                            before presentation to the full IRT.<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b>We are requesting your
                              feedback by the end of this week, 13
                              January,</b> on this document. We aim to
                            send this document, once finalized, to the
                            PSWG next week. Please send all feedback to
                            this list and if you have questions or
                            comments please don’t hesitate to email the
                            list or contact me directly.<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Best,<br></p><p class="MsoNormal">Amy<br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <br></p><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span class="colour" style="color:rgb(0, 32, 96)"><span class="font" style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif"><span class="size" style="font-size:10pt">Amy
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