[NCSG-PC] Comments on the CCOICI survey

[Tomslin Samme-Nlar]

Thank you so much Stephanie for the response.

Warmly,
Tomslin
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On Tue, 12 Mar 2024 at 01:15, 陳曼茹 Manju Chen <manju at nii.org.tw> wrote:

> Thank you, Stephanie, for drafting the response!
>
> If no one have raised other opinions until 11 March 23:00UTC, can Julf
> please submit the response on behalf of NCSG?
>
>
> Thank you so much!!
>
>
> Best,
> Manju
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 19:03 Stephanie E Perrin <
> stephanie.perrin at mail.utoronto.ca> wrote:
>
>> Profuse apologies folks, did not realize I had restricted access. SHould
>> now be open to anyone with the link, also attached as a word doc just in
>> case.  Copying Caleb and Juan and Ben in case they have comments.  Deadline
>> is tonight I think?  If anyone has any great ideas on how we could have
>> achieved consensus, I am all ears, but I could not think of anything except
>> to keep trying.  I do not recommend giving small teams or task forces the
>> power to deprive Council of voting something down.  And I could not see how
>> we could not have separated out the work that we did reach agreement on, if
>> we had had more notice of what the CPs were planning.
>>
>> cheers Stephanie
>> On 2024-03-10 10:24 p.m., 陳曼茹 Manju Chen wrote:
>>
>> Hi Spephanie,
>>
>> I can't assess the google doc, guess it'd be the same for others too.
>> Maybe if you could simply circulate the response in word document and we
>> can suggest edits (if any) in this mailing thread.
>>
>> Best,
>> Manju
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2024 at 3:33 AM Stephanie E Perrin <
>> stephanie at digitaldiscretion.ca> wrote:
>>
>>> I hope you are all happily home again after a safe and relaxing trip,
>>> luggage in tow.  If not, my sympathies.
>>>
>>> Here is a google doc with my suggested comments on the survey. Frankly,
>>> while we are not happy with the outcome of the CCOICI, I cannot see any
>>> point in trying out a different structure.  Maybe we can fix the one we
>>> have.  Maybe we should have brought in ethics and COI experts to help
>>> the task force.  We cannot consider changing the voting procedure at
>>> Council, we depend on the ability to object ourselves.  However, we need
>>> to not repeat what happened, and we need to get back at fixing the SOIs.
>>>
>>> Comments welcome, sorry for the delay but I had to go over the meetings
>>> and the root documents.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KYB7RxmiYymxnyTxJ74ZOwG0EJ-N0GlwRrOEeiWvSwc/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>> cheers Steph Perrin
>>>
>>> PS I am hopeless with google documents, hate them, so I wont be offended
>>> if you tell me I set it up all wrong.  Hopefully you can make suggestions
>>>
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