[NCSG-PC] Fwd: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29

Judith Hellerstein judith at jhellerstein.com
Mon May 29 07:09:58 EEST 2023


Hi All,

Thanks.  I hope I have clarified this issues now as I added in some wording into 
the document

Best,

Judith

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On 5/29/23 12:02 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
> Thank you, Judith.
>
> @Rafik Dammak <mailto:rafik.dammak at gmail.com> will you be able to look at the 
> comments Judith has left sometime today?
>
> Warmly,
> Tomslin
>
> On Mon, 29 May 2023, 06:59 Judith Hellerstein, <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>
>     HI Tomslin,
>
>     I accepted some of the changes but could not accept Rafik's as he is not
>     understanding how the NomCom Operates and what they are recommending.  I
>     have added in replies to his comments to explain them and hope this helps
>
>     Here again is the link.
>     https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>
>     Once Rafik has read this and accepted it, I can resolve all the comments
>     and submit it.  Do let me know what is the process. I believe we will have
>     a one-day extension since tomorrow is a holiday in the US and ICANN
>     usually does not have comments due on the holiday as US staff are off.
>
>     Best,
>
>     Judith
>
>     _________________________________________________________________________
>     Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>     Hellerstein & Associates
>     3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>     Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>     Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
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>
>     On 5/28/23 9:29 AM, Tomslin Samme-Nlar wrote:
>>     Hi Judith,
>>
>>     There are some comments on the document you shared. Can you please
>>     reconcile them?
>>
>>     Warmly,
>>     Tomslin
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Thu, 25 May 2023 at 02:37, Judith Hellerstein
>>     <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>>
>>         HI Juan,
>>
>>         I would have loved to include something about it and in fact wrote
>>         something up, but was told since this item was pulled from the Public
>>         Comment we could not address it here.  We have to address this issue
>>         in both NPOC's and the NCSG's comments to Sally directly
>>
>>         That was why I pulled it from the draft statement.  In a public
>>         comment, we can only comment on what is written and not an item that
>>         has been withdrawn. Please correct me if I was wrong
>>
>>         Best,
>>
>>         Judith
>>
>>         _________________________________________________________________________
>>         Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>         Hellerstein & Associates
>>         3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>         Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>         Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>         E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com    Website:www.jhellerstein.com  <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
>>         Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>         Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>
>>         On 5/24/23 11:24 AM, Juan Manuel Rojas wrote:
>>>
>>>         Dear all,
>>>
>>>         I would like to add something on this review. I believe that in the
>>>         same comment, we should also address the situation of NPOC, as this
>>>         comment is regarding NomCom rebalance.
>>>
>>>         Best regards,
>>>
>>>
>>>         *JUAN MANUEL ROJAS P.*
>>>         Director - MINKA DIGITAL Colombia
>>>         NPOC Policy Chair - NCSG/GNSO
>>>         Founding member - ISOC Colombia
>>>         Master IT candidate, UNAD
>>>         Registered Linux User No.*533108.*
>>>
>>>         /Cel. +57 301 743 56 00
>>>         Instagram/Twitter: @JmanuRojas <http://www.twitter.com/jmanurojas>/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         El martes, 23 de mayo de 2023, 03:47:22 p. m. GMT-5, Tomslin
>>>         Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com> <mailto:mesumbeslin at gmail.com>
>>>         escribió:
>>>
>>>
>>>         Dear PC,
>>>
>>>         Below is a draft to the Public Comments on NomCom Review that closes
>>>         on May 29 (Monday next week) drafted by Judith Hellerstein and Peter
>>>         Akinremi. Please provide your urgent comments to the draft by
>>>         midnight UTC on Thursday 25th May.
>>>
>>>         Warmly,
>>>         Tomslin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>>         From: *Judith Hellerstein* <judith at jhellerstein.com>
>>>         Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 at 00:08
>>>         Subject: Re: Public Comments on NomCom Review closes on May 29
>>>         To: Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele <muyiwacaleb at gmail.com>
>>>         Cc: Johan Helsingius <julf at julf.com>, Raoul Plommer
>>>         <plommer at gmail.com>, Tomslin Samme-Nlar <mesumbeslin at gmail.com>,
>>>         Akinremi Peter Taiwo <compsoftnet at gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>         Hi Caleb,
>>>
>>>         Here is the draft comment that I propose to send out for to the
>>>         various Policy teams within the NCSG for comment.  I do not know who
>>>         is on the PC FO to send it to so please can you send this to them
>>>         for me. Also not sure of your particular style or not.
>>>
>>>         https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WJbnMKrjFY-MSlziTej_iV4fUVD1VoB-hyQ_OJu55Dg/edit?usp=sharing
>>>
>>>         Peter and I have editing writes, but everyone has commenting
>>>         rights.  What we might want to do if we run out of time before the
>>>         deadline is to post a draft first and then replace it with the
>>>         approved and ratified one later
>>>
>>>         I am interested in seeing your opinion on this
>>>
>>>         Best,
>>>
>>>         Judith
>>>
>>>         _________________________________________________________________________
>>>         Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>         Hellerstein & Associates
>>>         3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>         Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>         Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>>         E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com    Website:www.jhellerstein.com  <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
>>>         Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>>         Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>
>>>         On 5/22/23 9:25 PM, Caleb Olumuyiwa Ogundele wrote:
>>>>         Hi Judith,
>>>>
>>>>         Thank you for coming up with this.
>>>>
>>>>         Since we have a short timeline, can we put the draft in a google
>>>>         doc and ask that you share it with the PC FO input and feedback.
>>>>
>>>>         One thing we can request through the PC is ask them to write ICANN
>>>>         for a little extension as it takes the entire PC a while to provide
>>>>         feedback and ratify public comments that  represents the NCSG's views.
>>>>
>>>>         Happy to see @Akinremi Peter Taiwo
>>>>         <mailto:compsoftnet at gmail.com> joining you to take a lead on this.
>>>>         I'm sure he can provide you with some NCSG perspective to support
>>>>         the arguments that will be put forward.
>>>>
>>>>         Caleb
>>>>
>>>>         On Mon, May 22, 2023, 2:38 PM Judith Hellerstein
>>>>         <judith at jhellerstein.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>             HI All,
>>>>
>>>>             Good talk on today's NCSG Call. Caleb, thanks for clarifying
>>>>             that Stephanie and you are only collaborating on the NomCom
>>>>             Rebalancing letter that Interim CEO Sally Costerton sent to all
>>>>             constituencies.  I suggested that we draft a statement in
>>>>             response to the public comment on the NomCom Review, and will
>>>>             be happy to be the Pen Holder. Basically, there are 4 questions
>>>>             they are asking us to comment upon.  Public Comments are due
>>>>             May 29, 2023. I have also cc'd my fellow NomCom rep, Peter
>>>>             Taiwo as he also suggested he was interested in helping draft.
>>>>
>>>>             1) Our Input on the Fundamental Bylaws amendment proposed for
>>>>             Article 7 of the ICANN Bylaws and the related proposed
>>>>             statement defining “Unaffiliated” Directors?
>>>>
>>>>             2) Our Input on the proposed Standard Bylaws amendments
>>>>             proposed to Article 8 of the ICANN Bylaws as well as the
>>>>             Transition Clause
>>>>
>>>>                 Change NomCom delegates’ terms to serve two-year terms,
>>>>             instead of one year.
>>>>                 Transform all NomCom delegates into voting delegates to be
>>>>             able to vote, except for leadership.
>>>>                 Create a NomCom Standing Committee to provide continuity
>>>>             across annual NomCom cycles and to build the institutional
>>>>             memory of the NomCom.
>>>>
>>>>              3) Our Input on the NomCom Standing Committee Charter?
>>>>
>>>>             4) Our input on the required changes to their RSSAC bylaws to
>>>>             allow them to accept a voting slot instead of the current
>>>>             non-voting slot
>>>>
>>>>             Here is a PowerPoint slide describing these changes.  Only
>>>>             contentious issue is the definition of unaffiliated Directors
>>>>
>>>>             Best,
>>>>
>>>>             Judith Hellerstein
>>>>
>>>>             _________________________________________________________________________
>>>>             Judith Hellerstein, Founder & CEO
>>>>             Hellerstein & Associates
>>>>             3001 Veazey Terrace NW, Washington DC 20008
>>>>             Phone: (202) 362-5139  Skype ID: judithhellerstein
>>>>             Mobile/Whats app: +1202-333-6517
>>>>             E-mail:Judith at jhellerstein.com    Website:www.jhellerstein.com  <http://www.jhellerstein.com>
>>>>             Linked In:www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/  <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jhellerstein/>
>>>>             Opening Telecom & Technology Opportunities Worldwide
>>>>
>>>>             On 5/22/23 7:33 AM, Johan Helsingius wrote:
>>>>>             I think the GNSO decision not to go there was longer than 6
>>>>>             months ago.
>>>>>
>>>>>                 Julf
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>             On 21/05/2023 16:55, Judith Hellerstein wrote:
>>>>>>             Hi Julf,
>>>>>>             Apparently it is too late for this, which is really sad. I
>>>>>>             was told the time to have done this negotiation was several
>>>>>>             months ago before the GNSO rejected these ideas. Sorry but I
>>>>>>             had not been focusing on these issues 6 months ago. The
>>>>>>             suggestion that was in the original public comment was what
>>>>>>             the review committee had suggested so that the GNSO could
>>>>>>             decide for itself but apparently according to CLO, groups
>>>>>>             within the GNSO heavily resisted this change and that was why
>>>>>>             the board/ review committee took back part of the review. .
>>>>>>             ALAC was for it and wanted to see this rebalancing but the
>>>>>>             review committee and Board got too much flack from people
>>>>>>             within the GNSO so they had to pull even this simple adjustment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Our best shot is the letter to sally however, even with the
>>>>>>             letter it is unlikely to happen again until 5 years. Maybe
>>>>>>             the NCSG can take back the slot from the NCUC as the only
>>>>>>             reason it was not given to the NCSG was because NPOC and the
>>>>>>             NCSG had not existed when these slots were first created.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             I have not heard from Stephanie about the comments on the
>>>>>>             NomCom Review.   Has one been created.  If not, I can pass
>>>>>>             you forward the one myself and Yrjo are writing for ALAC. The
>>>>>>             only contested issue not decided is the definition of
>>>>>>             unaffiliated and what that means and entail. Otherwise, What
>>>>>>             I have written have been accepted by the ALAC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Best,
>>>>>>             Judith
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>             judith at jhellerstein.com
>>>>>>             Skype ID:JudithHellerstein
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>                 -- *Caleb Ogundele*
>>>>>>>>>>>>                 Email: muyiwacaleb at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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