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<p>Thato,</p>
<p>While I appreciate your concern here I think you are missing
something in the context.</p>
<p> For reasons that need not concern us Ayden Ferdeline is stepping
down as Chair of the Finance Committee. Unless I am mistaken that
basically leaves two possible interim Chairs for the FC, myself
representing NPOC and Stephanie as Chair of NCSG. Stephanie, as
Chair of NCSG cannot serve as Chair here. We are talking about an
interim chair until NCSG appoints its member and (as you note) the
FC chair is appointed by a 2/3rds vote of the FC. <br>
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<p>As soon as NCUC appoints its member, there can be a vote for the
FC Chair and I can cease being interim Chair. <br>
</p>
<p><i>What is it that I do not understand about your position with
regard to due process around the appointment of the next FC
Chair?</i></p>
<p>Sam L. <br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/23/2019 4:48 AM, Thato Mfikwe
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<div>Hi Ayden,</div>
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<div>I would like to take you to a section on the charter that
talks to the election of FC members:</div>
<div>"The FC Chair must be appointed by the 2/3 votes of the FC
members"</div>
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<div>I thought this was supposed to be done in an open process
like an FC webinar or mailing list, I do not think you have
the power to appoint on your own regardless of who is eligible
to stand for the FC leadership position unless this succession
discussion took place in private without the knowledge of all
FC members (members and observers). <br>
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<div>Also as the outgoing chair, you cannot suspend the FC just
because you do not wish to continue serving as a Chair or
representing NCUC, where do you get that? It seems like you
are creating your own rules here because the only power for
the Chair according to the charter is to fulfil the NCSG
Treasury role. What actually guided your action, does the
charter or any community or committee guidelines allow you to
act in this fashion?<br>
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<div>You need to stop what you trying to do and wait for the
NCUC chair to give direction or the FC committee to discuss
the way forward in an open and inclusive manner as opposed to
taking decisions by yourself. This could have been discussed
in our meeting today before making taking such a decision.</div>
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<div>I also find this difficult to understand why other members
do not see anything wrong with what is taking place right now
or why they are keeping quiet when all these things are taking
place, consistency is needed in the FC decision-making process
to ensure fairness. I hope we will touch on this in our
meeting later today.<br>
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<div>Thato Mfikwe.<br>
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<div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 12:32
AM Ayden Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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<div>Hi Thato, <br>
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<div>Our charter does not permit the NCSG Chair to serve as
Finance Committee Chair. As the NCUC position will be
unfilled come 1 August, that only leaves Sam as a Finance
Committee member who is not NCSG Chair and thus can serve as
Finance Committee Chair. Accordingly, I have asked if he
would be willing to serve as interim Chair. Once the NCUC
appoints a new member, there can be a discussion of the
fully-formed Finance Committee as to how it will be led
moving forward.<br>
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<div>The alternative is for me to write to the NCSG Executive
Committee and to ask that the Finance Committee be suspended
and to assign its duties to the Policy Committee until such
time as the NCSG Executive Committee is satisfied it has a
fuller membership.<br>
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<div>Best wishes, Ayden <br>
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<div>‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐<br>
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<div> On Monday, 22 July 2019 19:09, Thato Mfikwe <<a
href="mailto:thatomfikwe@gmail.com" target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">thatomfikwe@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>Hi Ayden,<br>
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<div>Is the appointment you making inline with the
constitution?<br>
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<div>Thato Mfikwe.<br>
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<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 10:25 PM Ayden
Férdeline <<a href="mailto:icann@ferdeline.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">icann@ferdeline.com</a>>
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<div>Dear all,<br>
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<div>Please find below the announcement that the NCUC
Chair has shared on the NCUC mailing list today. As I
am an NCUC appointee, and I will soon no longer be an
NCUC member (effective 30 July), it is appropriate now
that a call be issued for my replacement.<br>
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<div>In the interim, I have asked Sam if he would be
prepared to serve as interim chair of the Finance
Committee from 1 August 2019. He has graciously
accepted.<br>
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<div>We can discuss further tomorrow.<br>
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<div><br>
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<div>Kind regards,<br>
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<div>Ayden Férdeline <br>
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<div>On Monday, 22 July 2019 10:34, Bruna Martins dos
Santos <<a href="mailto:bruna.mrtns@gmail.com"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">bruna.mrtns@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Dear NCUC,</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span>We</span>
would like to invite applications for
Constituency representative to the NCSG <span>Finance</span>
<span>Committee</span><span
style="background-color:transparent">.
Ayden is currently the NCUC representative
and Finance Committee Chair, but is -
unfortunately - stepping away from the
position. Therefore, the appointment would
fill his position for the remainder of the
year, ending at ICANN67.</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
<span>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Therefore,</span></span><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"> </span><b>this
present call is open for applications
until August 3rd</b></span><span style="font-variant-numeric:normal;font-variant-east-asian:normal;vertical-align:baseline;white-space:pre-wrap"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)"> </span>and the </span></span></span><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">the
EC will deliberate with the advice of the
NCSG Chair until<b> <span
style="background-color:rgb(255,255,0)">6 August</span></b></span></span><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent">.</span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">In accordance with our <span>NCUC</span> Operating
Procedures [1], the selection process will
take into account the </span><b
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif">following
characteristics</b><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><b>:</b></span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-indent:36pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">a. Has a depth of
expertise in <span>financial</span>
management, forensic accounting, and/or
budgeting.</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-left:35.4331pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">b. Candidates should also
highlight their practical understanding
of <span>financial</span> accounts,
risk management, and understanding of
auditing processes, as well as any
experience with grant seeking and/or
fundraising.</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><b><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Additional general
requirements</span></b></span></span></span><br>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-indent:36pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- The candidate must
submit an updated Statement of Interest
(SoI).</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:10pt;margin-left:35.4331pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">- It is desirable for the
candidate to have participated in public
comment efforts, and be an active member
in one or more Working Groups (WG)
within ICANN or generally been
contributing by being involved with
outreach and <span>NCUC</span> events.</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><a
href="https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Committees-2018"
style="text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><b><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">About the <span>Finance</span>
<span>Committee</span></span></b></span></a></span></span><br>
</p>
</span>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">The
<span>Finance</span> Commmitee at NCSG is
formed by one <span>NCUC</span> and one
NPOC representative. The current NPOC
representative is Sam Lanfranco. NCUC can
also add observers to this committee in
case there are more members interested in
following the committee's work.</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><br>
</div>
<div>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><b>If
you are interested at the position,
please send your application and SOI
to </b></span><a
href="mailto:chair@ncuc.org"
style="text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><b>chair@<span>ncuc</span>.org</b></span></a><span
style="background-color:transparent"><b>
and copy <a
href="mailto:maryam.bakoshi@icann.org"
target="_blank"
moz-do-not-send="true">maryam.bakoshi@icann.org</a></b></span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
<div><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span></span><br>
</div>
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style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">[1] <span>NCUC</span>
Operating Procedures</span></span></span></span><br>
</p>
<p dir="ltr"
style="line-height:1.8;margin-top:6pt;margin-bottom:0pt;text-align:justify"><span
style="font-family:Roboto,RobotoDraft,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif"><a
href="https://www.ncuc.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/NCUC-Operating-Procedures-Sept-2017.pdf"
style="text-decoration-line:none"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><span
style="background-color:transparent"><span
style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span
style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">https://www.<span>ncuc</span>.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/<span>NCUC</span>-Operating-Procedures-Sept-2017.pdf</span></span></span></a></span><br>
</p>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><br>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"></span><br>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Best Regards, </span><br>
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Martins dos Santos </span></i></b><br>
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<div>NCUC Chair <br>
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