<div dir="auto">Sorry just a add on. <div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">I think the FC takes on the jobs of both internal auditor/Committee, Financial secretary and treasurer positions jointly in any set up in the current definition.</div><div dir="auto"><br><div dir="auto">May be we have that in mind, I am sure it will help.</div><div dir="auto">Remmy</div></div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Sat, 14 Jul 2018 2:45 am farzaneh badii, <<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">The issues that were raised in the past because of the different interpretation of the charter and needs to be cleared are the obligation of FC (section 3 of operating procedures) . Since in the other doc I can see that Remmy relies on the NCSG charter to argue for providing oversight for constituencies through NCSG FC, I think it is crucial to talk to those who were involved in drafting it to know what the charter means and can help us with its correct interpretation. <br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">I think we should get a reality check on why FC was suggested in the charter, what was the rationale for it. Then we can get a clearer interpretation. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">So I believe a meeting with the drafters of the charter and the FC and observers and whoever else we want is needed. I think it can help us. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default"><span id="m_-1870634552200582189gmail-docs-internal-guid-5662496e-9667-b93f-fd99-f615f1338b87" style="font-size:13.3333px;white-space:pre-wrap"><div><font color="#000000" face="Arial"><br></font></div></span></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">
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As far as this charter is concerned they do not have any privilege of decision so why that route. If there are issues we can resolve with voting as contained in charter.</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Regards</div><div dir="auto">RN</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, 13 Jul 2018 10:52 pm Thato Mfikwe, <<a href="mailto:thatomfikwe@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">thatomfikwe@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>Hi Farzaneh,</div><div><br></div><div>Which points do you have doubts about on the Charter and why? Secondly, is this the first time these doubts or concerns are emerging, if not please elaborate? Thanks.</div><div><br></div><div>Thato Mfikwe.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:31 PM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Remmy </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">How is this a second draft? You kept most of the issues that we flagged unresolved and kept your original language. Even the ones which Thato agreed with me and had suggested alternatives. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">You should either as the penholder suggest a compromise, or flag all these issues before we discuss with the members. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Also, at this stage, I think we need to have a meeting with those who drafted the NCSG charter to discuss and clarify the points we have doubts about. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Moreover, we need to discuss inviting two more members to join the FC. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_-1807754496725502702m_8362298162129579928m_3301668016183855674gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_-1807754496725502702m_8362298162129579928h5"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_-1807754496725502702m_8362298162129579928h5"><div dir="ltr">Please see link for the first clean copy.<div><br></div><div>Items left unresolved are the ones I thought needs more discussion except if those who made points there decides its ok then, let me know.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit?usp=sharing</a><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_-1807754496725502702m_8362298162129579928m_3301668016183855674m_6712635912958894978gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">____<div>REMMY NWEKE, <font size="1">mNGE</font>, </div><div>Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, <br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,0,0)">DigitalSENSE Africa Media</span> <span>[<i>Multiple-award winning medium</i>]<br></span>(<a href="http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">DigitalSENSE Business News</a>; <a href="http://www.itrealms.com.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ITREALMS</a>, <a href="http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">NaijaAgroNet</a>)</div><div>Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos<br>M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">@ITRealms<br></a><div>Author: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria</a></div><div><br></div><div><b><font color="#ff0000">South-South <a href="http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable</a></font></b> </div><div>(Uyo, Akwa-Ibom State). 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Thanks.</div><div class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314signature-text"><div><br></div><div>Thato Mfikwe.<br></div></div></div><div class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314elided-text"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 11:31 PM, farzaneh badii <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:farzaneh.badii@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">farzaneh.badii@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Remmy </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Thank you.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">How is this a second draft? You kept most of the issues that we flagged unresolved and kept your original language. Even the ones which Thato agreed with me and had suggested alternatives. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">You should either as the penholder suggest a compromise, or flag all these issues before we discuss with the members. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Also, at this stage, I think we need to have a meeting with those who drafted the NCSG charter to discuss and clarify the points we have doubts about. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Moreover, we need to discuss inviting two more members to join the FC. </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif">Best </div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:verdana,sans-serif"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_8362298162129579928m_3301668016183855674gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><font face="verdana, sans-serif">Farzaneh </font></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_8362298162129579928h5"><div dir="ltr">On Thu, Jul 12, 2018 at 9:12 PM Remmy Nweke <<a href="mailto:remmyn@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">remmyn@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_8362298162129579928h5"><div dir="ltr">Please see link for the first clean copy.<div><br></div><div>Items left unresolved are the ones I thought needs more discussion except if those who made points there decides its ok then, let me know.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit?usp=sharing" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XBL9khOhzxRRu5BiwCNeGu4suSfAw3tHFnNldeirnJQ/edit?usp=sharing</a><br></div><div><div><div dir="ltr" class="m_-1870634552200582189m_-1483362706396721612m_2612798920608677314m_8362298162129579928m_3301668016183855674m_6712635912958894978gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr">____<div>REMMY NWEKE, <font size="1">mNGE</font>, </div><div>Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor, <br><span style="background-color:rgb(255,0,0)">DigitalSENSE Africa Media</span> <span>[<i>Multiple-award winning medium</i>]<br></span>(<a href="http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng/businessnews" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">DigitalSENSE Business News</a>; <a href="http://www.itrealms.com.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">ITREALMS</a>, <a href="http://www.naijaagronet.com.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">NaijaAgroNet</a>)</div><div>Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza, Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos<br>M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475, T: <a href="http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">@ITRealms<br></a><div>Author: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria%E2%80%8E" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria</a></div><div><br></div><div><b><font color="#ff0000">South-South <a href="http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">Nigeria DigitalSENSE Forum on IG4D & Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable</a></font></b> </div><div>(Uyo, Akwa-Ibom State). 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